Possible that Putin tries to lure out his opponents, talk about different factions in the Putin camp being polarized, talk about FSB and Kadyrov or a possible coup?
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Alcathous
Netherlands219 Posts
Possible that Putin tries to lure out his opponents, talk about different factions in the Putin camp being polarized, talk about FSB and Kadyrov or a possible coup? | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13774 Posts
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Alcathous
Netherlands219 Posts
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Stormhoof
Serbia182 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:05 Alcathous wrote: In the mean time, in Russia, everyone is afraid Putin has died and the country will soon be thrown into chaos. Reason: he hasn't appeared in eight days. Kremlin has responded to the rumors, but still no Putin. Possible that Putin tries to lure out his opponents, talk about different factions in the Putin camp being polarized, talk about FSB and Kadyrov or a possible coup? Wet dreams of fascists from west, Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea. There is like thousands of Putin's in Russia, ready to stand up against globalistic capitalists who would rather create world of chaos then lose their profits. | ||
Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:37 ZeRoX_TV wrote: Wet dreams of fascists from west, Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea. There is like thousands of Putin's in Russia, ready to stand up against globalistic capitalists who would rather create world of chaos then lose their profits. People sure love to project themselves to authority figures in conquest, oppression and mass murder. | ||
Stormhoof
Serbia182 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:43 Caihead wrote: People sure love to project themselves to authority figures in conquest, oppression and mass murder. First look in your own yard, what NATO did to many other countries. | ||
Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea LOL | ||
farvacola
United States18768 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:37 ZeRoX_TV wrote: Wet dreams of fascists from west, Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea. There is like thousands of Putin's in Russia, ready to stand up against globalistic capitalists who would rather create world of chaos then lose their profits. Where have you been all my life? Tell me more about this idea of a man. | ||
Alcathous
Netherlands219 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:37 ZeRoX_TV wrote: Wet dreams of fascists from west, Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea. There is like thousands of Putin's in Russia, ready to stand up against globalistic capitalists who would rather create world of chaos then lose their profits. More like, ready to kill their Russian brother for a dime the moment authority is gone. Better not miss out on becoming an oligarch. | ||
Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:44 ZeRoX_TV wrote: First look in your own yard, what NATO did to many other countries. Yeah they stopped serbia from committing genocide, the horror. | ||
Stormhoof
Serbia182 Posts
On March 14 2015 09:13 Jaaaaasper wrote: Yeah they stopped serbia from committing genocide, the horror. I never expected that average Joe can understand geopolithics. Only genocide here was throwing thousands of tons of deepleted uranium and plutonium. I really dont wanna offtopic more then this but its clear people on this thread cannot accept that there is other opinion other then theirs.its perfectly fine when USA invade numbers of sovereign countries, take their resources, seceed their territory, but its outrageous when legal president of Ukraine take Russian side, I guess NATO couldnt expand its rockets as near to Russia as they wanted so its logical that Putin is authocrat. I guess you all prayed for USA to intervene when Turkey is bombing Kurds villages every day for years or that you are against S.Arabian dictature. Oh wait, no, its ok as long as Turkey can play its role and Arabia is delivering oil so u all can drive as much as u want for 1$. Disguisting double standards. | ||
Alcathous
Netherlands219 Posts
Then, denying genocide, pretty tasteless. Donno which side you were on(like you were born back then), but probably not on the side of the victims, else you wouldn't talk so brazenly. That was NATO did didn't help is not really relevant. It was a bloody mess long long before they joined the action. | ||
snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On March 14 2015 09:13 Jaaaaasper wrote: Yeah they stopped serbia from committing genocide, the horror. ;D if it said u were from UK so i could subconsciously read it in british accent, that line would be pure gold :D now, can we please stop derailing the thread further, guy is strawman-ing so hard its not even funny... also, Alcathous, nato helped. maybe not on time, and the issue is complex, but they helped. | ||
Alcathous
Netherlands219 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40172 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:33 LegalLord wrote: An alternative interpretation is that yellow press news sources blew a fairly common event out of proportion. I mean, disappearance of Putin for eight days is actually fairly rare event, if that ever happened in 15 years of his reign, especially right in the middle of the season. Not to mention that all press releases from Kremlin looked at best unconvincing so far. | ||
iVLosK!
Djibouti545 Posts
On March 14 2015 08:37 ZeRoX_TV wrote: Wet dreams of fascists from west, Putin can never die, Putin isn't just a man, he is an idea. There is like thousands of Putin's in Russia, ready to stand up against globalistic capitalists who would rather create world of chaos then lose their profits. The same could have been said about Hitler in 1939 if you changed "globalistic capitalists" to "international bolshevism." But Hitler died and the "idea" did as well. Hitler possessed the same cult of personality that Putin attempts to foster and look how well that turned out. OT: Putin is probably sick and can't be seen in public looking unhealthy/weak. I've been sick for the last couple weeks and I do not look like I should be running an authoritarian government in a time of war. | ||
Simberto
Germany11043 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40172 Posts
On March 15 2015 00:43 Simberto wrote: Well, it took a bit more than just Hitlers death to end the idea of Nazism as a majority ideology. In fact, Hitler's death was the least meaningful event in the chain of events that led to extermination of Nazism as ideology. | ||
Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Boris Nemtsov had to be killed, but not only because he was going to lead an anti-war parade -- that would have had at the most 16,000 people in my view, given the remote location, the problems in preparing it, the arrest of Nemtsov for the two weeks before it, etc. And not only because he was going to release a report on the war -- lots of people have done that, and more can always be done, but his contribution would have been to make it interesting, viral in Russia, and compelling to foreigners. He had already done a video with a million views about MH17, with Leonid Martynyuk. I think the reason Boris would have to be killed was because he would have easily gotten the 100,000 signatures that any candidate for president in emergency elections after the demise/withdrawal/death/overthrow of the existing president needs to have. This is what Robert Coalson helpfully explained at RFE/RL. It's actually easier to run for president after a death/overthrow like that then in the normal course of things (it seems to me). Why did they have to do this? Because they had nothing to imprison him on. Navalny couldn't run because he had a suspended sentence -- and at any time they could make that real, and now asked to on Friday. Prokhorov would have been a possibility as he was a safe choice to run against Putin in the past, but just last Friday, another thing happened seemingly on schedule, he was forced to resign his own party, which he had funded and founded, because it was hijacked by hardliners who backed the "anti-Maidan" parade February 21. That basically put him out of politics. Ilya Ponomarev is a possible candidate but he went abroad because there, too, authorities were trying to pin some fabricated case on him and he had numerous threats and provocations. So really, there was only one threat -- Nemtsov -- and the coup-plotter had to remove him so that he wouldn't mess up the successio There's a great deal more to read in the blog post, including about the Kremlin security forces and their possible connection to Nemtsov's murder. Read the rest here. | ||
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