Why there's no SSL 2017
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geokilla
Canada8165 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
I would like to see SPOTV be able to host SC2 tournaments, and hopefully something will get figured out, but I think for many people they would rather see 3 GSLs than 2 GSLs and 2 SSLs. | ||
Deleted User 26513
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:00 geokilla wrote: https://twitter.com/GTR1H/status/808236602719731712 Thanks Blizzard for supporting the Korean scene! /sarcams Yes, thanks Blizzard for funneling almost as much money into Korea as into the rest of the world combined to the constant complaints of ingrates. | ||
Serimek
France2274 Posts
=> If they were to create a TeamLeague because they can't have part in the WCS system, I'd be quite happy with that. | ||
ihatevideogames
570 Posts
Especially after the Stork interview, anyone who comes out with comments defending them really seems like either a shill or a total drone. | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:38 ihatevideogames wrote: Why are there so many drones mindlessly defending blizzard? Especially after the Stork interview, anyone who comes out with comments defending them really seems like either a shill or a total drone. What do you think was unreasonable or shilling? | ||
RvB
Netherlands6079 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:53 RvB wrote: This makes no sense to me. Granting wcs points to SSL doesn't cost anything. Not sure what Blizzard is thinking here. It's probably not about granting WCS points to SSL, but distributing funding for WCS tournaments. I would imagine SSL is reliant on Blizzard money. | ||
Yiome
China1687 Posts
For me i think it won't just because of wcs points instead more about the money blizzard would provide and how they want to use them efficiently It is probably better to have 3 seasons of GSL + a few events that can last throughout the year than something like this year which was terrible with no Korea tournament since autumn, despite there were two tournaments running In the end the Korea scene is just too small and the amount of money Blizzard is willing to provide is limited that it is not possible to keep more than 1 local large scale tournament organized. And if that is the case then I agree Afreeca is probably the better choice here compared to SportTV | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:07 Pr0wler wrote: If you really want SSL 2017 then go ahead and fund it with your own money. This is actually an interesting thought - does anyone have an idea, how much subsidy does such a think need to run - not total cost, but net loss to be covered? | ||
Lexender
Mexico2613 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:56 Ansibled wrote: It's probably not about granting WCS points to SSL, but distributing funding for WCS tournaments. I would imagine SSL is reliant on Blizzard money. I'd say its that, prize money is just a fraction compared to production cost and Blizzard pumped the same prize money as last year. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 13 2016 01:02 opisska wrote: This is actually an interesting thought - does anyone have an idea, how much subsidy does such a think need to run - not total cost, but net loss to be covered? You could probably figure something rough out from this, since there is a cost breakdown. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/493879-hiat-afterthoughts | ||
brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On December 13 2016 01:04 Olli wrote: I'm not sure how true this is. I'd heard about the demise of SSL months before WCS 2017 was announced. Seems to me that they're just looking to blame it on Blizzard rather than own up and say that it simply isn't profitable for them. you can blame the fanbase for that. many starcraft players have been obsessed with the game for almost 20 years and can't be rational or reasonable about it. anyone who steps outside of being a starcraft fan can see that blizzard has already given the game more than they had to from a business standpoint and that it wasn't going to last forever no matter when the game "dies" it's had an incredible run, both the franchise and SC2 itself. lots of games aren't even popular when they're new, and SC2 is still being played competitively 4 years later. that's awesome. of course no one will want to take responsibility for dropping SC. SC fans can be very entitled and react angrily when there's no good reason to do so | ||
rotta
5560 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:38 ihatevideogames wrote: Why are there so many drones mindlessly defending blizzard? Especially after the Stork interview, anyone who comes out with comments defending them really seems like either a shill or a total drone. What interview? | ||
Lexender
Mexico2613 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:38 ihatevideogames wrote: Why are there so many drones mindlessly defending blizzard? Especially after the Stork interview, anyone who comes out with comments defending them really seems like either a shill or a total drone. Thinking that Blizzard could save proleague is naive at best and dumb at worst. Even if they could fund the tournament once the korean companies jumped ship it wouldn't have mattered anyway because then there wouldn't be any teams to play in it. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8795 Posts
At some point blizz can't just fund everything by themselves, SSL was rumour to be cancel from month, it's not like it was the WCS system that convince them. | ||
kugHop
Luxembourg44 Posts
Why do you blame everything on Blizzard? They literally pay people to put on a show for you knowing that they will not earn a cent for their troubles! How can you be so ungrateful just because they don't organize an event with 240 players every weekend and don't ask you to pay anything for it? I'm pretty sure that as soon as you would have to pay in order to watch SC2 even if it would mean more events, all of you "fans" who are jumping on the "insult Blizzard for killing Jesus or whatever-Train" would shy away from SC2 and cry out for free stuff. SPOTV literally just gives Blizzard the fault for ending SSL. Still they say themselves that the only reason SSL stops is that there won't be WCS points. (thanks for sharing geokilla, but I hope you will also start thinking in the future) They don't talk about costs, so following their statement, they could without a problem organise SSL, meaning they are too cowardly to come out and say that they either don't want to do it or can't do it but blaming Blizzard for it is just plain stupid and generating unnecessary anger. I'm a big supporter of the korean SC2 scene as I mainly watch their events. So be happy guys, we get 3 GSL, 1 more than last year, we get an IEM, 1 more than last year, as well as 2 Global Events outside of Blizzcon, 1 more than last year. And in addition, Korea gets close to the same prize pool than the rest of the world, so why do you keep crying? Just be freaking thankful that Mike Morhaim is still there and strongly supporting the game we all love. And before some "fans" start calling me a drone, slave, blind denier or whatever your destructive creativity comes up with, please try to think and develop arguments for why you would so strongly harass Blizzard, try to find a respectable reason in order to fuel a proper discussion. This being said, thanks to all for sharing the love for this wonderful game and I hope this is the last essay I have to write about this | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On December 13 2016 01:02 opisska wrote: This is actually an interesting thought - does anyone have an idea, how much subsidy does such a think need to run - not total cost, but net loss to be covered? I don't know enough to even speculate but the sponsorship situation in Korea is fairly poor, its fairly barren right now outside of SKT and KT funding teams, so I would guess its pretty close to "taking on the cost of the entire thing." Wax wrote a nice editorial on this that sums it up better than I can. | ||
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