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On February 10 2017 06:35 jpg06051992 wrote: Lol, steam punk Rasta man on futuristic roller skates wielding a microphone weapon, and here I thought that Mephesto, Bhaal, Fenix or Stukov would have been the next additions to this game because people actually, I don't know, care about those characters?
As long as his abilities bring something good to the game it's fine but in my opinion there was still a strong handful of actual nostalgic characters who would have been way better additions.
1. Were you just as dismissive with Tracer and Zarya? 2. Just because you don't play Overwatch doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't include heroes from that game. It's really popular, and Lucio has been a popular character in that game. 3. The irony that you "care" about Mephisto and Baal, yet can't spell them correctly. 4. Lucio looks like an awesome and useful character.
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Murky/Tass ban meta begins today.
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On February 15 2017 05:14 karazax wrote: Murky/Tass ban meta begins today.
Tass ban meta has been since forever (in competitive, at least). I'm not sure it (or Murky) will translate to HL... I guess we will see.
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Tassadar changes seem really strong, although the 20 upgrade got nerfed hard (Had a game where I had Archon running for 3 minutes, the refresh saved my life when a Zeratul jumped me and I got another shield and an E refresh, and when I finally ran out of stuff and retreated I only had ~40s of CD left). Also stealth nerf to baseline Archon with the CD not starting until the end of the duration, increasing the effective CD from 100s to 110.
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The Valeera stun nerf is kind of nice to see. I'm neutral on her specifically, but lockdown in general is really strong again.
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On February 15 2017 04:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:35 jpg06051992 wrote: Lol, steam punk Rasta man on futuristic roller skates wielding a microphone weapon, and here I thought that Mephesto, Bhaal, Fenix or Stukov would have been the next additions to this game because people actually, I don't know, care about those characters?
As long as his abilities bring something good to the game it's fine but in my opinion there was still a strong handful of actual nostalgic characters who would have been way better additions. 1. Were you just as dismissive with Tracer and Zarya? 2. Just because you don't play Overwatch doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't include heroes from that game. It's really popular, and Lucio has been a popular character in that game. 3. The irony that you "care" about Mephisto and Baal, yet can't spell them correctly. 4. Lucio looks like an awesome and useful character.
I can understand the feeling, I myself never understood why people wanted malthael ? so badly. But I know its personal preference . Can't wait for Rein and Ana, so I can play Overwatch in HotS.
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On February 15 2017 17:56 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2017 04:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 10 2017 06:35 jpg06051992 wrote: Lol, steam punk Rasta man on futuristic roller skates wielding a microphone weapon, and here I thought that Mephesto, Bhaal, Fenix or Stukov would have been the next additions to this game because people actually, I don't know, care about those characters?
As long as his abilities bring something good to the game it's fine but in my opinion there was still a strong handful of actual nostalgic characters who would have been way better additions. 1. Were you just as dismissive with Tracer and Zarya? 2. Just because you don't play Overwatch doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't include heroes from that game. It's really popular, and Lucio has been a popular character in that game. 3. The irony that you "care" about Mephisto and Baal, yet can't spell them correctly. 4. Lucio looks like an awesome and useful character. I can understand the feeling, I myself never understood why people wanted malthael ? so badly. But I know its personal preference . Can't wait for Rein and Ana, so I can play Overwatch in HotS.
Those would be really cool additions imo, especially if Reinhardt could have his big, wide, portable shield that he could wield rather than just adding a bubble shield to someone else like Zarya does.
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playing 12* games as illidan only out of the 15 needed for the WoW event AMA
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On February 15 2017 04:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:35 jpg06051992 wrote: Lol, steam punk Rasta man on futuristic roller skates wielding a microphone weapon, and here I thought that Mephesto, Bhaal, Fenix or Stukov would have been the next additions to this game because people actually, I don't know, care about those characters?
As long as his abilities bring something good to the game it's fine but in my opinion there was still a strong handful of actual nostalgic characters who would have been way better additions. 1. Were you just as dismissive with Tracer and Zarya? 2. Just because you don't play Overwatch doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't include heroes from that game. It's really popular, and Lucio has been a popular character in that game. 3. The irony that you "care" about Mephisto and Baal, yet can't spell them correctly. 4. Lucio looks like an awesome and useful character.
1. Yes I was 2 So? It's not the one that I wanted so I don't really care, nor do I actually care that I didnt get what I want I didn't know halfheartedly complaining = Pro asshole treatment from sarcastic nerds on forums 3. Uhh yeeeaa your a dick..Thanks for the extreme snark and the unwarranted grammar lesson on "how to spell the name of fictional characters from video games." Maybe read my other comments where I'm admitting to just complaining because they didn't put the hero in that I wanted? lol 4. Yea, that's pretty much exactly what I said, thanks again bro.
Eh I mean yea pretty much, not because they have been here for longer, more so because they are just straight up cooler haha comparing the other 2 Prime Evils to Lucio just seems, idk lame?
Lol the REAL point is that he brings good gameplay to HOTS I'm just complaining at least now there will be a good peel option for supports respect to Blizzard for making well designed heroes.
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Horsepants discusses OP Lucio late game heals
Current build Got done spamming Luigi in HL and determined that at least in a HL setting hes a top tier pick. I've been running reverse amp for the extra second of healing and the OP slow. The extra second of healing/speed is constant value vs the shield, and then you get the strong active. I keep seeing everyone say he's just padding his numbers and it's because of his passive AoE healing and his numbers aren't that great and his burst healing isn't that great, but it's the exact fucking opposite. Let's assume we went reverse amp and have 4 seconds on E. - At level 13 you'll heal 880 over 4 seconds. For comparison, although instant, Monk's AoE heal is 482 this level. It has a 15 second CD and you have to toggle between speed/healing, but you can easily leave healing on the full duration when needed. Now, this is where his numbers get fucking retarded and I have no idea how you guys don't see that it's more than him just padding his stats.
- At level 16 you'll heal 988 over 4 seconds, and assuming you've taken the 3 percent healing talent (which you should), you'll heal a total of 988 + 12 percent hp in a giant area. Then comes his level 20. I truly believe this to be the most broken level 20 in the game right now.
- At level 20 you'll heal 1156 over 4 seconds + 12 percent max health. But suddenly you got this awesome talent called Bonus Track which basically doubles this (I know there's a slight delay switching back and forth), but you'll be doing 2312 + 24 percent health~ over 8 seconds. This is a 15 second CD, there is a 7 second down time.
On top of these redickulus numbers, he does have the passive sustain healing (more like regen, but hey its free), movement speed, and a 60 percent MS buff. His utility is through the roof. Cleanse isn't even needed in most scenarios. If the enemy team can't 100-0 a teammate during the stun time you'll save them more times than a NA cleanse would. You'll have them run at double mount speed, and then you have the option to slow the enemy by 45 percent too. You usually turn the speed boost on for 1-2 seconds, then switch over and give then healing for 2-3 seconds. Basically, no, he's not padding his stats. No, his healing isn't bad and isn't slow. If you begin to outdamage the healing you switch to speed boost for a quick second to create space between you and the danger, then use the remaining duration on the heal. Also, although I didn't emphasize it, the MS is probably the most broken part of the kit. Being able to constantly switch between positioning and healing over 4 seconds is crazy. Some clips that show how quickly he heals/how strong the MS is. And here's the current build: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/lucio#kD73+ Show Spoiler +- Level 16 healing: (double this in your brain at level 20).
- More healing/using MS instead of heal 2 pce:
- Using MS Boost + Reverse + Knockback to catch people:
- A bit of everything:
- Level 20 speed shenanigans:
- Level 20 healing/speed/lightsywatch
Big D tip: Your E is 15 second CD and needs to be used correctly. You also need to rapdily switch between speed and heal. Sometimes it's better to switch to sonic speed for 1-2 seconds, even when your teammates are missing health, to get them out of the enemies threat zone (you ended up healing them more with movement speed than healing since you prevented the damage altogether). You'll steal have the last 2 seconds or so to burst heal the team, then you have the sustain regen. As long as your teammates didn't die you'll heal them back to full pretty quickly.
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Rich playing some buffed Valeera
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So, just met Murky for the first time since the rework... And against Auto Attackers he's pretty much immune to dmg, isn't he? I was playing Artanis, trying to deal with him, he just took no dmg past lvl 13 (I guess?). I mean, we still won, but I'm just imagining what's happening once he reaches lvl 20 and his health is doubled.
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Just meele Autoattackers. And if his health is doubled at 20, one side already lost and the Murky just wants a big model. No passing up on OP slime talent, unless the map has chokey objectives.
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On February 17 2017 06:46 Swisslink wrote: So, just met Murky for the first time since the rework... And against Auto Attackers he's pretty much immune to dmg, isn't he? I was playing Artanis, trying to deal with him, he just took no dmg past lvl 13 (I guess?). I mean, we still won, but I'm just imagining what's happening once he reaches lvl 20 and his health is doubled.
I've been playing rag in QM the last couple days and I haven't noticed any issues against him. one Q almost one shots him.
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On February 18 2017 00:59 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 06:46 Swisslink wrote: So, just met Murky for the first time since the rework... And against Auto Attackers he's pretty much immune to dmg, isn't he? I was playing Artanis, trying to deal with him, he just took no dmg past lvl 13 (I guess?). I mean, we still won, but I'm just imagining what's happening once he reaches lvl 20 and his health is doubled. I've been playing rag in QM the last couple days and I haven't noticed any issues against him. one Q almost one shots him.
Pretty sure Rag Q doesn't count as an auto-attack.
Lvl 13: Fish Tank
Basic Attacks against Heroes grants Murky 75 Physical Armor against Heroes for 2 seconds.
When the talent is good (lots of AA, lots of melee heroes to AA), Murky becomes the tankiest thing imaginable. Had a match w/ a malph support vs Lucio, Artanis, Muradin, Kharazim, Kerrigan. I could not be killed.
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Balance doesnt care for QM or dumb drafts. Weird though Lucio should just run circles around you till you are dead, and Muradin/Kerrigan can each combo you down, since there is just one bubble. But yah to many people think facetanking is viable in heroes.
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On February 18 2017 05:52 FeyFey wrote: Balance doesnt care for QM or dumb drafts. Weird though Lucio should just run circles around you till you are dead, and Muradin/Kerrigan can each combo you down, since there is just one bubble. But yah to many people think facetanking is viable in heroes.
QM, and yea i was useless until both teams started grouping up and 5v5'ing. Neither Muradin or Kerrigan tried to burst me down (and I think wasting real CDs on murky still feels bad).
Not a statement on balance. It was just really amusing.
(I actually feel kinda crazy, since I think the changes actually may have made murky worse. Removal of bubble machine + increased respawn time from egg feels bad.)
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Not sure they'll do fast nerfs on Murky. He got weaker in lane, but better in team fights. Its really hard to lose health with a Lucio around if you are Zuljin perma berserk. And Lucio snuggled me because of his quest.
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Murky takes way too many resources to kill relative to what he gains you when you do it. I don't really consider him weaker in lane at all.
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