D.Va Patch General Discussion - Page 2
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9237 Posts
But from spamming a lot of Genji (because he is fun as hell) and contrasting him to someone like Zeratul, I feel like Genji is a much better all-round hero. I also notice Zeratul has a much lower win/rate in quick-match which indicates he is more comp-reliant (?). But whenever I play zeratul I feel like I am so dependant on my team to be able to deal reliable damage because w/ Zera you are only dealing damage once every 10th second (or so). Whereas with Genji you can also be the ranged auto-attacker as well as the clean-uper. In thank he is better than Zeratul at the latter. The only advantage I think Zeratul has is cloak and I guess the occational big VP. So I wonder what type of comps does Zeratul actually fit in well with and what weakness's does Genji have? So far I only had trouble playing against mind control (sylvaanas). Everything else can easily be dodged (if your mechanics are on point). And in terms of damage-numbers I always find myself on top (or secnd) in my team. | ||
Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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Midseasons
United States48 Posts
On May 09 2017 03:26 Holdenintherye wrote: First impression on Dva Hmmmm didn't Blizzard nerf Odin because it was a second health bar? D.va isn't going to be doing Odin-level damage, though. The self-heal makes more sense on a warrior. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Changes from PTR: Battleground Rotation Update
Alarak: Sustaining Power (E) Moved from Level 16 Bonus Healing increased from 25 to 40% PTR version: Bonus Healing reduced from 30% to 25% Lvl1: Extended Lightning (E) Moved from Level 4 Adjusted functionality: Reduce the damage bonus of Sadism by 10%. !Quest: Hit 5 enemy Heroes with the center portion of Lightning Surge. Reward: Increase the range of Lightning Surge by 20%. !Quest: Hit 15 Heroes with the center portion of Lightning Surge. Reward: Enemy Heroes hit with the center portion of Lightning Surge are slowed by 40% for 2 seconds. PTR Version: Reward: Enemy Heroes hit with the center portion of Lightning Surge are slowed by 50% for 2 seconds !Quest: Hit 3 enemy Heroes with the center portion of Lightning Surge in a single cast. Lvl 4: Negatively Charged (E) Moved from level 16 New functionality: Increases the bonus damage from hitting the center portion of Lightning Surge to 150% Quest: Each time you hit an enemy Hero with the center portion of Lightning Surge, increase the center damage bonus by an additional 3% PTR Version: Increases the bonus damage from hitting the center portion of Lightning Surge to 200% Quest: Each time you hit an enemy Hero with the center portion of Lightning Surge, increase the center damage bonus by an additional 5% Tyrande Lvl 7 Huntress' Fury Moved from Level 13 Reduced the splash radius by ~33% PTR Version: No reduced Radius New functionality: Basic Attack’s against targets with Hunter’s Mark will damage all nearby enemy Heroes and Mercenaries Bug fix: Quick Cast: Fixed an issue causing abilities to fail when quick-casted over the minimap with the "Right Click through Minimap" option enabled. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Here are the initial top win rate talents from HOTSlogs: 1) Hit the Nitrous 4) Bring it on 7) Dazer Zone 10) Big Shot 13) Ablative Armor 16) GG, WP 20) MEKAfall | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
The AI team of Blizzard is definetly doing something else atm. X.x And the might wanna fix D.Va attack animation vs 1 hp targets :x . GG, WP is a win more talent. I prefer the slow and range on 16 when behind. | ||
Vindicare605
United States15719 Posts
On May 09 2017 03:26 Holdenintherye wrote: First impression on Dva Hmmmm didn't Blizzard nerf Odin because it was a second health bar? Unfortunately thats like the only thing she has going for her. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
I'm okay with her getting nerfed into the ground. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
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ETisME
12082 Posts
Landing the self destruct is still hit or miss. You can fire it up like overwatch and the booster is pretty damn fast to stop at the right location. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 18 2017 02:26 EsportsJohn wrote: I am not a big fan of D.Va right now. She jumps in and out of the mech really quickly, so the windows of opportunity to kill her are way too small. Pilot Mode is honestly a lot scarier, but the mech mode is just really really annoying. I'm okay with her getting nerfed into the ground. Another fun and balanced OW hero :D. | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4776 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On May 13 2017 08:56 Hider wrote: So I am interested in hearing some thoughts on someone kno whows what he is talking about (e.g. watching the esports-scene and playing the game at a reasonable high level). But from spamming a lot of Genji (because he is fun as hell) and contrasting him to someone like Zeratul, I feel like Genji is a much better all-round hero. I also notice Zeratul has a much lower win/rate in quick-match which indicates he is more comp-reliant (?). But whenever I play zeratul I feel like I am so dependant on my team to be able to deal reliable damage because w/ Zera you are only dealing damage once every 10th second (or so). Whereas with Genji you can also be the ranged auto-attacker as well as the clean-uper. In thank he is better than Zeratul at the latter. The only advantage I think Zeratul has is cloak and I guess the occational big VP. So I wonder what type of comps does Zeratul actually fit in well with and what weakness's does Genji have? So far I only had trouble playing against mind control (sylvaanas). Everything else can easily be dodged (if your mechanics are on point). And in terms of damage-numbers I always find myself on top (or secnd) in my team. You basically said it here: "The only advantage I think Zeratul has is cloak and I guess the occational big VP." The simple fact of Zera's cloak and escapes mean he can get picks quite reliably. Genji in competitive can and will be CC'd hard. The same can be true for Zera, sure, but Zera's insta E in, damage, wormhole out offers really secure and solid poke. Zera has great waveclear. Genji has very poor waveclear. But the most important thing is of course VP. VP can set up fights, or it can turn fights. It can secure bosses, it can save cores. It is one of the single most impactful heroics in the game. Zera's relatively low QM winrate is likely impacted by the fact he is at his best when you can combo VP with other abilities like Ring of Frost, Apocalypse, Sulfuras Smash, and so on, which is less likely to be pulled off ideally in QM. | ||
Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Zera is good in setup comps, and good vs solo flankers. Zera and Genji are very different though. Zera opens a fight with burst. Genji finishes a fight with burst. If you want to compare Genji to someone, compare him to Li Ming. Before all the nerfs you could play Li Ming like you play Genji now. He is a win more hero. Thats why if you are on the losing side in a Genji vs Genji, your Genji looks like the worst player of all time, while theirs look like a god. In that regard Genji relies alot on his team to create opportunities. Zeratul is all about creating opportunities for his team. Weakness of Genji is good positioning and roots. The other weakness is shields. If you go in and your target invulns, you are in a real bad position. You still might get out as Genji if the enemy didn't position themself well. But shields make it way harder to get an opening. There are also heroes that can simply ignore a Genji. Like Chen and Mura. Or heroes like the Butcher and Xul that will force you to keep your mobility skills for getting out alive. I wasn't asked though | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4776 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On May 19 2017 21:22 Ghostcom wrote: Who have you guys found is the best counter to D'va? So far "ignore her completely" seems to be the winning play for me, but after level 16 with GG WP it gets increasingly hard unless you absolutely stomp fights. Global pressure, tbh | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4776 Posts
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Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
They need to hit that with a CD nerf and do something about the infinite-health-bars, for sure | ||
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