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"Despite the fact that Bisu may be better in two matchups, a player who doesn't win a single game in OSL/MSL can't be #1."
Nothingtheless Jangbi on #1? lol Ok, Bisu got eliminated both from MSL and OSL by ... beatable Zerg. But he is still the better player, I dont know why bad results are so much more heavier weighted than no results (backho t.t). And I'd like to have seen July in the PR, I mean seriously, his 7 winstreak is MUCH more impressive than yellows 4-0 against a 40% pvz and 33% tvz, lol wtf
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On January 16 2009 02:07 Fontong wrote: I hope Hwasin and Jangbi roll over and die....
So I guess the only reason that there is no July is he isn't in leagues while Yarnc is?
Yeah he missed on MSL because of byzantinum 2 , he has been on fire for a little while in PL thought and still in OSL .
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as much as I'm big fan of FS I must say the current PR is crap. Yes maybe Bisu is already out from both SL but you can see those 4 games just as 4 losses. The aftermath of Bisu's screw up will affect his entire season. However he was near perfect for the past month or so. I still think bisu is the best player on earth, not only that but he is still on top by a considerable margin. The thing is he he had two terrible days, which rise up many 'maybes' but the fact is bisus pvt and pvp are in a different league compared to jangbi. Yes he fucked up 4 games, but the results of that are yet to be seen and erasing his overall performance for the past weeks is wrong. I think JangBi is number 1 because someone has to take the spot. Then why not Jaedong ? Not to mention that stork doesnt have a place in a power rank... Leta is just awesome but he needs a silverware to prove himself. Flash over Bisu ? Why ? Flash basically lost all important games last month vs stork, jaedong, 3 times against bisu... Anyway thanks for the PR FakeSteve... if not else its very provocative
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On January 16 2009 01:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:I'll be adding free, skyhigh, and savior in a few hours. Other people you'd like to see?
Effort, Zero maybe, Mind looked really strong till he met Hwasin, Kal also is the Kal we used to and the Kal that gained high ranks in PR, inconsistent as always.
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On January 16 2009 02:09 Djin)ftw( wrote:"Despite the fact that Bisu may be better in two matchups, a player who doesn't win a single game in OSL/MSL can't be #1." Nothingtheless Jangbi on #1? lol Ok, Bisu got eliminated both from MSL and OSL by ... beatable Zerg. But he is still the better player, I dont know why bad results are so much more heavier weighted than no results (backho t.t). And I'd like to have seen July in the PR, I mean seriously, his 7 winstreak is MUCH more impressive than yellows 4-0 against a 40% pvz and 33% tvz, lol wtf
I mean better by 'potential'. Bisu's most recent performances certainly aren't conducive to the #1 spot. Again, Jangbi is #1 because every other potential candidate has been dropping games in ways that are not acceptable for top-ranked players. Jangbi has been great, there's no question, but if any of the other top ranked players had maintained their level of play, Jangbi couldn't be #1. But they didn't, so here we are.
It hurts my brain, but here we are.
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On January 16 2009 02:11 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 01:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 16 2009 01:53 Geo.Rion wrote: btw no CBNC? I'll be adding free, skyhigh, and savior in a few hours. Other people you'd like to see? Zero maybe, Mind looked really strong till he met Hwasin, Kal also is the Kal we used to and the Kal that gained high ranks in PR, inconsistent as always.
Yep, Kal is still Kal. He's capable of great things, but quite often doesn't deliver.
Certainly he hasn't delivered lately
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On January 16 2009 02:10 disciple wrote: as much as I'm big fan of FS I must say the current PR is crap. Yes maybe Bisu is already out from both SL but you can see those 4 games just as 4 losses. The aftermath of Bisu's screw up will affect his entire season. However he was near perfect for the past month or so. I still think bisu is the best player on earth, not only that but he is still on top by a considerable margin. The thing is he he had two terrible days, which rise up many 'maybes' but the fact is bisus pvt and pvp are in a different league compared to jangbi. Yes he fucked up 4 games, but the results of that are yet to be seen and erasing his overall performance for the past weeks is wrong. I think JangBi is number 1 because someone has to take the spot. Then why not Jaedong ? Not to mention that stork doesnt have a place in a power rank... Leta is just awesome but he needs a silverware to prove himself. Flash over Bisu ? Why ? Flash basically lost all important games last month vs stork, jaedong, 3 times against bisu... Anyway thanks for the PR FakeSteve... if not else its very provocative
Well Flash lost to 3 top players , while Bisu lost to the underdogs in his groups ... And also have you seen JangBI's PvT ? It's definitely in a different league then Bisu's a league above that is ...
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which I still cant quite realize
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On January 16 2009 02:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:11 Geo.Rion wrote:On January 16 2009 01:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 16 2009 01:53 Geo.Rion wrote: btw no CBNC? I'll be adding free, skyhigh, and savior in a few hours. Other people you'd like to see? Zero maybe, Mind looked really strong till he met Hwasin, Kal also is the Kal we used to and the Kal that gained high ranks in PR, inconsistent as always. Yep, Kal is still Kal. He's capable of great things, but quite often doesn't deliver. Certainly he hasn't delivered lately
I missed July!! he seems solid in mirror, showed great ZvT against FBH (Jaedong style Chupung-reyon play) and his ZvP is good as ever
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On January 16 2009 02:10 disciple wrote: as much as I'm big fan of FS I must say the current PR is crap. Yes maybe Bisu is already out from both SL but you can see those 4 games just as 4 losses. The aftermath of Bisu's screw up will affect his entire season. However he was near perfect for the past month or so. I still think bisu is the best player on earth, not only that but he is still on top by a considerable margin. The thing is he he had two terrible days, which rise up many 'maybes' but the fact is bisus pvt and pvp are in a different league compared to jangbi. Yes he fucked up 4 games, but the results of that are yet to be seen and erasing his overall performance for the past weeks is wrong. I think JangBi is number 1 because someone has to take the spot. Then why not Jaedong ? Not to mention that stork doesnt have a place in a power rank... Leta is just awesome but he needs a silverware to prove himself. Flash over Bisu ? Why ? Flash basically lost all important games last month vs stork, jaedong, 3 times against bisu... Anyway thanks for the PR FakeSteve... if not else its very provocative
There is no excuse for the "best player in the world" to lose 4 straight matches in his best matchup, in the most important tournaments of starcraft.
EVER.
And I know he won against Magma, but winning PvZ on Byzantium doesn't count because it's FREAKING Byzantium. So Bisu was basically 0-4 in the starleagues.
If you do the above, you can't be considered the best player in the world.
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On January 16 2009 02:10 disciple wrote: as much as I'm big fan of FS I must say the current PR is crap. Yes maybe Bisu is already out from both SL but you can see those 4 games just as 4 losses. The aftermath of Bisu's screw up will affect his entire season. However he was near perfect for the past month or so. I still think bisu is the best player on earth, not only that but he is still on top by a considerable margin. The thing is he he had two terrible days, which rise up many 'maybes' but the fact is bisus pvt and pvp are in a different league compared to jangbi. Yes he fucked up 4 games, but the results of that are yet to be seen and erasing his overall performance for the past weeks is wrong. I think JangBi is number 1 because someone has to take the spot. Then why not Jaedong ? Not to mention that stork doesnt have a place in a power rank... Leta is just awesome but he needs a silverware to prove himself. Flash over Bisu ? Why ? Flash basically lost all important games last month vs stork, jaedong, 3 times against bisu... Anyway thanks for the PR FakeSteve... if not else its very provocative
You're kind of understating how bad Bisu's last few games have been. He's still top 5, too.
Jangbi's PvT is certainly on par with Bisu's, it's really worth praise.
Yes, Jangbi is #1 because someone had to take the spot. However, the reasons Jaedong did not take it are outlined in the written part of the Rank. It's pretty well explained.
I mean, not 'well' like 'don't think you I did a good job', I mean 'well' like 'it is explained'
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guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats
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But Jangbi and Leta have such stupid names...
For CBNC definitely July, who is on a great streak in proleague, which most detractors would say he sucks at. I also think he recently took the best career win percentage zvp, and he's marching towards 70%. I understand not putting him in the top ten till after he gets out of his OSL group.
Other people... effort and free, zero continues to improve.
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Bisu really shouldn't have sold his PvZ to the devil in exchange for the PvT to beat Flash.
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On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote: guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats
This is actually true, Bisu's PvP is his strongest matchup.
Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if Bisu won GOM. He's still an excellent player, that's why he's top 5. And it isn't like if Bisu recovers, he'll never reclaim the top spot. He just doesn't deserve it right now.
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Hm.Still I think it's odd, a few days ago Bisu was clearly, undoubtedly the best player in the world. Now he is out of MSL and OSL he is only #5? Cause his pvz sucks at the moment (at least his pvt is #1 in the world, pvp top 3? 2?)? Thats just weird to weight a week and a few (though important) games so much more than 4 weeks(!) of complete dominance. But ok, I could agree with that. But JANBGI on #1, thats just..
maybe there shouldnt have been a power rank this month. Flash > Jeadong, I dont know. Leta > Flash, I dont know. Bisu #5, I dont know. JANGBI #1, ....
but ok, I havent seen all games, so I guess you win ^^
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I wonder how many of the people hating on Jangbi have actually bothered to watch any of his games. I said it in the old thread that I don't think he deserves 1st just yet. But that he would lack the ability to win an individual league is just laughable. I personally believe Stork when he says that Jangbi is the best player on Samsung, and I think it is only a matter of time before he proves it in a convincing manner.
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On January 16 2009 02:26 Fwmeh wrote: I wonder how many of the people hating on Jangbi have actually bothered to watch any of his games. I said it in the old thread that I don't think he deserves 1st just yet. But that he would lack the ability to win an individual league is just laughable. I personally believe Stork when he says that Jangbi is the best player on Samsung, and I think it is only a matter of time before he proves it in a convincing manner.
Yeah, it's pretty unreasonable to say that Jangbi doesn't have the skillset necessary to win a title.
This is coming from someone who really doesn't like Jangbi, too.
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I don't understand. First people say putting 3 zergs into his MSL group is a smart idea since PvZ is his best and JD/FBH/FL fans should stop bitching. And now when he loses you all say PvZ is not his best MU.
Seriously.
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