My mind is blown.
Power Rank 01/16/2009 - Page 8
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
My mind is blown. | ||
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 16 2009 03:21 o[twist] wrote: I understand the logic but I have to disagree with this ranking. Bisu performing badly of late does not mean that Jangbi goes back in time and wins the MSL. That MSL final has absolutely nothing to do with this Ranking, though. Keep that in mind. I love having NaDa as a tool for reference here. He's got six titles and he's not top 10 on this rank | ||
NonConGuy
United States416 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
1.) Fakesteve's power poll = 1/3 2.) TL Staff internal poll = 1/3 3.) TL community poll = 1/3 Average the three and come up with a top ten. Then everyone can fight to the death | ||
Braintricks
137 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:00 d_so wrote: we should do something like college football: 1.) Fakesteve's power poll = 1/3 2.) TL Staff internal poll = 1/3 3.) TL community poll = 1/3 Average the three and come up with a top ten. Then everyone can fight to the death Boxer would win the TL community poll every time. | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:03 Braintricks wrote: Boxer would win the TL community poll every time. not true. i've been posting a "top terran player right now!" poll for the last two months and Boxer, though disproportionately high, has yet to come close to winning: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84174 | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:00 d_so wrote: we should do something like college football: 1.) Fakesteve's power poll = 1/3 2.) TL Staff internal poll = 1/3 3.) TL community poll = 1/3 Average the three and come up with a top ten. Then everyone can fight to the death it'd be a pretty inaccurate top 10, then | ||
RinoZerg
Australia130 Posts
This is a good rank. I can't understand the people screaming for Bisu, he crashed out of both leagues! How on earth could you put him number one?! I agree with Steve on Julyzerg. Much as I love watching Tushin crush mediocre Protoss and go guardian/queen on FBH I don't think he's on the rank yet. If he keeps performing in Proleague and smashes his way into the next stage of OSL I think we'll see his face on the rank. | ||
Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: it'd be a pretty inaccurate top 10, then well, here's what i have to say, and i don't want to belabor the point too long: 1.) Teamliquid is a highly respected site, if not the premier Starcraft site for foreigners. The opinion of TL is thus highly regarded. 2.) TL, though cursed with ignorant/retarded noobs like any other site, has a exceptionally high proportion of intelligent, knowledgeable posters, both in starcraft and irl. 3.) You do a good job, and have been doing so with both the Power Rank and as a moderator on the site for a long time. Because of this, I think your opinion deserves a heavy weight in determining the top 10 players. It's just that, being the American that I am, and having been indoctrinated from an early age in the glory of distributional power and checks and balances, where even the POTUS only holds 1/3 of the power, I think it would be cool to have TL's prestigious power rank be balanced with more opinions yeah, but fuck the community poll. How about: 1.) FakeSteve's power rank: 1/3 2.) TL internal poll: 1/3 3.) TLPD monthly ranking analysis: proleague matches won = 1 point, ace matches = 2, msl/osl/gom matches are scored depending on what round their in... add up the points and have a statistical ranking system --> 1/3 just something to thnk about. if you keep doing the power rank till the day you die, i wouldn't mind cuz it's at least fun to talk about. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
I personaly would have put kal on 10 simply cause he has by far the best pvz arround and absolutly humiliated jeadong and luxury in proleauge with strong play, hes incositant yes, but I think hes just a better player atm than hwasin is overal. Hwasin had favourble maps for tvz and mind just suxed in their tvt I think. | ||
foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:29 Ichigo1234551 wrote: Where is Savior dude CBNC please. Just because he's a beast AND he had his rape-face back today, not even blinking an eye having trashed Bisu. But that's just a fanboy speaking. Great PR, kinda agree on almost everything. I really wonder (and look forward to) what 'll go down in MSL/OSL/all-kill PL and the effect it 'll have on next PR. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:34 d_so wrote: well, here's what i have to say, and i don't want to belabor the point too long: 1.) Teamliquid is a highly respected site, if not the premier Starcraft site for foreigners. The opinion of TL is thus highly regarded. 2.) TL, though cursed with ignorant/retarded noobs like any other site, has a exceptionally high proportion of intelligent, knowledgeable posters, both in starcraft and irl. 3.) You do a good job, and have been doing so with both the Power Rank and as a moderator on the site for a long time. Because of this, I think your opinion deserves a heavy weight in determining the top 10 players. It's just that, being the American that I am, and having been indoctrinated from an early age in the glory of distributional power and checks and balances, where even the POTUS only holds 1/3 of the power, I think it would be cool to have TL's prestigious power rank be balanced with more opinions yeah, but fuck the community poll. How about: 1.) FakeSteve's power rank: 1/3 2.) TL internal poll: 1/3 3.) TLPD monthly ranking analysis: proleague matches won = 1 point, ace matches = 2, msl/osl/gom matches are scored depending on what round their in... add up the points and have a statistical ranking system --> 1/3 just something to thnk about. if you keep doing the power rank till the day you die, i wouldn't mind cuz it's at least fun to talk about. Yeah, I'm just talking shit because I can Though while we're talking about hypothetical situations, I don't think a mathematical system that weighs performances like a fantasy pool would really benefit the Power Rank. It's already easy enough to cruise TLPD for stats | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On January 16 2009 04:00 d_so wrote: we should do something like college football: 1.) Fakesteve's power poll = 1/3 2.) TL Staff internal poll = 1/3 3.) TL community poll = 1/3 Average the three and come up with a top ten. Then everyone can fight to the death While the accuracy of such a system would come into question, I actually think this could be a fun and interesting thing to try. | ||
Fwmeh
1286 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On January 16 2009 05:17 Fwmeh wrote: But with regards of Jangbi's PvT. What I think sets him over other incredible PvTers such as Best is his versatility. Best plays the fast arbiter style close to perfection on macro maps. But even then, there are counters to it, and it does not suit all maps. Who remembers Best using any other style of PvT really well? Jangbi otoh has no really set style in PvT. He can go heavy macro mode one game. He can open with very aggressive reaver harass another game (I adore his reaver/shuttle micro). He plays carrier when appropriate. He can play templar heavy. His PvT is really varied, and he is very strong with all those styles. That is why I think that his PvT is (potentially) the best. Being versatile is Stork's best point in PvT and I think he tops Jangbi in that. What makes Jangbi's PvT so amazing is his army control and his ability to stasis things perfectly and keep his temps alive and storm the shit out of the late game terran army during battles, just watch his replays or his game vs nada on Othello or his game vs Pepe on Medusa. His storms are amazing giving him the nickname thunder god. He is certainly versatile, but his army control and his amazing storms sets his PvT apart from the rest of the dragons. Also Jangbi and Stork go obs heavy which is better than Bisu and Best's low obs count style which is slightly vulnerable to heavy vult users like Mind and Skyhigh. Obs heavy helps scouting alot and helps time flanks and breaks perfectly, Jangbi's PvT is sick and great to watch. | ||
Fwmeh
1286 Posts
On January 16 2009 05:26 samachking wrote: Being versatile is Stork's best point in PvT and I think he tops Jangbi in that. What makes Jangbi's PvT so amazing is his army control and his ability to stasis things perfectly and keep his temps alive and storm the shit out of the late game terran army during battles, just watch his replays or his game vs nada on Othello or his game vs Pepe on Medusa. His storms are amazing giving him the nickname thunder god. He is certainly versatile, but his army control and his amazing storms sets his PvT apart from the rest of the dragons. Also Jangbi and Stork go obs heavy which is better than Bisu and Best's low obs count style which is slightly vulnerable to heavy vult users like Mind and Skyhigh. Obs heavy helps scouting alot and helps time flanks and breaks perfectly, Jangbi's PvT is sick and great to watch. Yeah, Stork might be more versatile than Jangbi, but I think Jangbi has better mechanics while being almost as "smart" PvT as Stork. His storms are incredible, but so is his reaver play. | ||
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