Power Rank 08/04/2009 - Page 23
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iamho
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Orbifold
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On August 17 2009 08:14 iamho wrote: most people would just vote for their favorite player, not the players actually doing well For most people, their favorite player happens to be the one doing well. If Jaedong and Flash stop performing as well, you will see the rabidness of their fanbase decrease proportionally. | ||
disciple
9069 Posts
On August 17 2009 09:17 Orbifold wrote: If everyone had to pick their top ten, then big JD fans would always put JD at #1 but the other slots would be more objective, same for Bisu fans ect. Over all I bet it would be a pretty good gauge of performance. I dare all boxer fans to unite and to show how bad the system is. The player with the biggest fanbase, Jaedong atm, will be #1 without contest, even if you personally try to vote objective, 250 other guys will autovote Jaedong or Bisu | ||
Nylan
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Geo.Rion
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On August 17 2009 09:17 Orbifold wrote: If everyone had to pick their top ten, then big JD fans would always put JD at #1 but the other slots would be more objective, same for Bisu fans ect. Over all I bet it would be a pretty good gauge of performance. blind fanboys would always put their favorie first, not only the JD and Bisu fans. And reasonable fans wont put their favorie first when they suck. They might be pissed though, but i often read stuff like "Even though i'm in love with Flash i admit he's doing bad". Or "Even though i hate JD nobody can deny he's the best right now" (for ex. Plexa sg along that line, not exactly this) | ||
Avidkeystamper
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tree.hugger
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This month's PR: #1: How the hell do you choose between fantasy and Jaedong? Fantasy's emmaculate execution of the the proxy-rax bunker-rush and his stunning play on Outsider in the PL finals (the most important of all leagues, mind you) makes a strong case for his placement at #1. But while the fantasy gains major points for that win, I don't think it reflects poorly on Jaedong. Similarly, I think the emphasis on Jaedong's semi-final clinching win on RotK goes to the Tyrant- fantasy was done in a by a bad position and a good call from Jaedong, and not any lapse of skill. Games One and Two of that series were incredibly hard-fought, and I came out of them thinking that these two players are evenly matched. In the end, I believe that if Jaedong wins the OSL, he will retain the top spot by virtue of a tie. And OSL win would put to rest the idea that Jaedong's ZvZ is slipping, and a golden mouse should be as good of a ticket to #1 as any. There is only space for one #1... #2: ... but the other is #2. #3: This month sucks, because there's so little action, this will end up more as a legacy PR than anything else. But with Calm grabbing #4 last month, it's only fair to promote him after a win against the world's top Zerg. Calm had quite a practice advantage in the MSL, but that shouldn't diminish his achievements; with wins against EffOrt and Jaedong, Calm has proven to be a master of preparation and execution. Only his Bo3 against BeSt (which he won) was lackluster. #4: An OSL finals is an OSL finals, and however you characterize Yarnc's route so far, you cannot ignore success. Yarnc has beaten Flash, Jaedong, go.go, and type-b in convincing fashion, and he is finally ready for the big stage. If he beats Jaedong, he moves to #3. #5: Iris will get the fifth slot if he beats Kwanro and makes the MSL finals. The MSL at one point was looking like the tougher tournament this year, and even if the end result appears to be a typical match of A-level pros, it will, in reality, be a well-deserved showdown between two clever and entertaining players. Iris has looked shaky of late, but he has also gotten things done. #6: Flash will take the #6 through sheer lack of competition. GOM is his consolation prize for falling out of nearly everything else, even if it only reminded us of how he has failed to achieve the bright future that seemed so imminent a year and a half ago. Nonetheless, his TvT has been spectacular of late, often he seems to fall behind if only to make his inevitable comeback that much more stunning. Suggestions of FvT are well merited. Flash now needs to get his TvZ in order (and we haven't seen a TvP from him (or, granted, anyone) of late) and perform along with his peers in the next set of starleagues. See you in the winter! #7: Having covered nearly all the big players this month, we turn to Bisu. Bisu has gone 3-2 this month, going 2-2 against Iris (after being down 0-1) and falling out of his signature tournament- an event which seemingly took the spark right out of a promising MSL. More positively, he also shut down the "___ next bonjwa?" craze by handling PerfectMan with ease in PL. He missed a sure-fire ace match against Jaedong which could have brought him higher on this rank, but I'm sure he was probably more happy with the end result. Bisu was the last remaining protoss standing in a season which seemed designed to destroy them. It's not all his fault, but we expect better from Bisu, an upset against Iris does not help your cause. Along with Flash, Bisu is another legend whose performance will be scrutinized greatly in the fall. #8: EffOrt defeated July this month, which gives me just enough justification to put EffOrt on this mock-PR. It's really the only games he's played this month, and he handled July's ingenious play very well. A loss to Firefist in the Masters is nothing important, once in practice, EffOrt should be poised to return to his dominating ways. A deeper starleague run is in order. The rest: Nobody else has played this month, and deserves much of a mention. I suppose FireFist and MyDream deserve shout-outs for not sucking, but honestly, including people based on WCG opening rounds, and the Masters tournament is kinda hard. I guess that means that Kwanro sneaks on the rank, but I can't for the life of me think of someone else to include. Put fantasy at #10 again for beating ArisoL like a rented mule. ArisoL gets on the NC&NC along with KeSPA for their terrible free-agent system, and whoever the hell is running KT, for their idiotic name-changes. | ||
TwoToneTerran
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Orbifold
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+ Show Spoiler + Oh CJ fan, gotcha. | ||
StorrZerg
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TwoToneTerran
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 19 2009 15:13 Orbifold wrote: Why does Effort > July for 3rd in GOM justify a PR spot, while Flash winning GOM is a mark of failure? + Show Spoiler + Oh CJ fan, gotcha. + Show Spoiler + As a KT fan, do you always see bias everywhere? A) I put Flash above EffOrt. B) When did I say Flash's GOM win was a mark of failure? You just completely made that up.* C) Hardly anyone played this month- last month, EffOrt would've dropped out of the PR if he had played only 4 games (well, 7 now) and won three. But obviously, times change, and EffOrt hasn't done anything that should make him fall out of this. He entered the month with really only the third-place match, and won it. * Does that mean I get to make up something too? | ||
o[twist]
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Nylan
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o[twist]
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On August 20 2009 05:00 o[twist] wrote: honestly after Jaedong, Fantasy, Calm, Yarnc, Flash, Iris, Bisu, and Effort, as the list above included, I have no idea who should be in a PR right now. Definitely should include whichever organization (Kespa again, I think?) that decided on the slave market contract changes for players. Maybe put them at #3 to create a buffer between JD/Fantasy and the rest of the PR. | ||
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On August 20 2009 08:33 Hinanawi wrote: Definitely should include whichever organization (Kespa again, I think?) that decided on the slave market contract changes for players. Maybe put them at #3 to create a buffer between JD/Fantasy and the rest of the PR. oh come on. those kids only have to work for 12-15 hours a day, seven days a week, and play in three to five tournaments at once. those sound like pretty good working conditions to me - why should they have a choice about where they do it | ||
TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 20 2009 05:00 o[twist] wrote: honestly after Jaedong, Fantasy, Calm, Yarnc, Flash, Iris, Bisu, and Effort, as the list above included, I have no idea who should be in a PR right now. Um, Kwanro. | ||
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
well we know he can beat zero... | ||
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