games on those maps were so fun to watch
Would island maps really be that imbalanced? - Page 6
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
games on those maps were so fun to watch | ||
branflakes14
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xAPOCALYPSEx
1418 Posts
I LOVE island maps in basically all games though, so I would love to see blizz implement some map mechanic or at least some way to try to balance this out and add it in. | ||
krok(obs)
Germany264 Posts
island maps, just as in bw, would negate all the attempts made by the developers to balance the game. its basically just like team games. | ||
Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:02 branflakes14 wrote: Floating expansions and flying Dark Templar really would make Terran ridiculous to play against. At least that's my first impression. Haha yeah Floating infrastructure, Flying DT's, Inexpensive drops that require a portion of Zerg/Protoss's army to defend, commands unmatchable air dominance with Raven/Viking/BC, Bases that defend themselves and worst of all...Hellions! :p The race looks like it was built for that kind of stuff | ||
Snickersnee
United States241 Posts
Have you met my friend the marine. | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:24 Snickersnee wrote: Queen being the best early anti-air.... Have you met my friend the marine. Just throwing this out there, but one queen is better than one marine. | ||
Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
On August 28 2011 13:56 Slakter wrote: Doesnt matter if it´s balanced or not, playing and watching island maps are less enjoyable than ramming a knife into my nose. This. Anyone who followed BW in its early days would know - there are videos of Boxer playing island map matches - island match ups disappeared in Brood war simply 'cause it gets old after a short while. Island maps force players to adapt certain play styles, and it simply gets boring. We expect to see maps where there are variety of options a gamer can take. | ||
sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:35 LuciferSC wrote: This. Anyone who followed BW in its early days would know - there are videos of Boxer playing island map matches - island match ups disappeared in Brood war simply 'cause it gets old after a short while. Island maps force players to adapt certain play styles, and it simply gets boring. We expect to see maps where there are variety of options a gamer can take. "Island maps" are still used in BW, Bisu vs Crazy Hydra was awesome, Flash vs Jaedong was awesome. As for forcing play styles. On dreamliner we saw ... Flash opening 5 rax (as in 5 supply) into expand Jaedong going overpool Jaedong going lurker instead of muta Jaedong going for overlord transport to get island 4th Flash going for defense matrix drop on 4th Jaedong going for doom drop in Flash's main Flash defending doom drop Flash winning with crazy defense multi-prong play Alternative Dreamliner The problem with blizzard maps was that they didn't put a mineral patch on the island to balance it between all races. They probably tried using destructible rocks, but we all know how that would go down. | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:55 sluggaslamoo wrote: "Island maps" are still used in BW, Bisu vs Crazy Hydra was awesome, Flash vs Jaedong was awesome. + Show Spoiler + Alternative Dreamliner The problem with blizzard maps was that they didn't put a mineral patch on the island to balance it between all races. They probably tried using destructible rocks, but we all know how that would go down. How on earth are those island maps? I see direct ground routes (mnever played on them so maybe I'm missing something). Also yet again the min patch does not work on sc2. you can either just drop mules until they r gone or do the scv unload. | ||
sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On August 28 2011 19:04 iCCup.Diamond wrote: How on earth are those island maps? I see direct ground routes (mnever played on them so maybe I'm missing something). Also yet again the min patch does not work on sc2. you can either just drop mules until they r gone or do the scv unload. Alternative has the high ground expansion, which you need air-transport to get to. Dreamliner has the 4 oclock true island expansion, and the 10 oclock which needs air transport. I take your point about the min-patch issue in SC2. Maybe make sure the CC can't land without the min-patch gone, and the min-patch has 24 minerals (or 6 patches with 1 minerals). This means you can't drop 5 scvs from the CC and mine it out, as you need to use 6 scvs (i guess you can still float the CC back and forth, not sure if its worth it though). You need an overlord/prism/medivac full of workers in order to take the base. Zerg can nydus, but the ability under-used anyway so that would be a good thing. Edit: Oh wait mules, oops, herp derp. Sigh. I guess have a 10 hp destructible rock, rather than a 10,000 hp one. I dunno. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 28 2011 19:10 sluggaslamoo wrote: Alternative has the high ground expansion, which you need air-transport to get to. Dreamliner has the 4 oclock true island expansion, and the 10 oclock which needs air transport. I take your point about the min-patch issue in SC2. Maybe make sure the CC can't land without the min-patch gone, and the min-patch has 24 minerals (or 6 patches with 1 minerals). This means you can't drop 5 scvs from the CC and mine it out, as you need to use 6 scvs (i guess you can still float the CC back and forth, not sure if its worth it though). You need an overlord/prism/medivac full of workers in order to take the base. Zerg can nydus, but the ability under-used anyway so that would be a good thing. Edit: Oh wait mules, oops, herp derp. Sigh. I guess have a 10 hp destructible rock, rather than a 10,000 hp one. I dunno. That's just an island expansion, is Scrap Yard an island map? | ||
decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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blazingblue16
Canada41 Posts
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TigerKarl
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
I see the warp in mechanics as really powerful and the terran anti air potential as not such a huge problem because turrets can be picked of by gound forces. | ||
MERLIN.
Canada546 Posts
Yeah... get off that rant. | ||
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