[Champion] Nocturne - Page 8
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koreasilver
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sylverfyre
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Craton
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dignity
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Mystogun
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On January 11 2012 12:24 koreasilver wrote: But isn't that why TOO's build still works? Trying to get atmogs without getting fed just doesn't work on nocturne jungle anymore. I think TOO's build is pretty relevant after the jungle changes. That's true, I didn't consider that TOO also got two gp10, which is starting to get pretty standard on a few junglers. I guess I never really looked at the numbers to see how much damage I was actually doing. Thanks for the responses. | ||
dignity
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koreasilver
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sylverfyre
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Yay
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SagaZ
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Sandster
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-Wriggles is mandatory. You *need* lifesteal, both for jungling and teamfights, and build no other lifesteal items the entire game. The sustain, damage, quicker clears, and dragon/baron control are amazing, and the free ward is just gravy on top. -Philo, on the other hand, is a trap. Philo-based junglers benefit greatly from Shurelia for initiates (think Skarner, Rammus, Maokai, Amumu, Jarvan, etc). Nocturne has no use for Shurelia, and the philo+passive isn't enough to keep your health up. You don't use much mana in the jungle, and also don't rely on CDR. -Early on, HP is king. You have such a good steroid in your Q and W that building extra health will allow you to do more damage overall. (You should be taking the first few red buffs.) Your standard build will almost always be Wriggle, Boots, and an HP item (Ruby Crystal or Giant's Belt based on farm.) -Fed Nocturne is easy to build. Warmog/Atma/Ghostblade, possibly Frozen Mallet if you prefer that route. -When not fed, Aegis is a solid choice in most games. From the Ruby Crystal, you build HoG+Aegis or Warmog based on your farm. Many people also buy Avarice Blade here, and end up with a finished build of Wriggle, Boots, Aegis, HoG/Randuins, Ghostblade, and one other item. Most games will not last this long. | ||
Mogwai
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broz0rs
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I have been stal.. following your ranked matches, and you are maining a no wriggles Nocturne with excellent results. Are you laning or jungling? Please share your ideas. Regards, a fan | ||
ArcticVanguard
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Terranasaur
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On February 14 2012 12:41 ArcticVanguard wrote: New Nocturne here, I'm only 17 so I still don't have all of my masteries, nor do I have any T3 runes. What jungling path should I be taking? The safe path that I've seen (dual golem -> wraith -> wolf -> blue, b, wolf -> wraith -> red -> dual golem) isn't doable because I have almost no health when I go to take blue. Or should I be laning instead? You need armor runes if you want to jungle, especially Nocturne. Honestly, I think you're better off just sticking to a lane and grinding those next couple levels until you can get tier three. Jungling at low levels is risky business because you force your teammate to 2v1 and you can't always trust them to do that well. | ||
GhandiEAGLE
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koreasilver
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On February 14 2012 12:41 ArcticVanguard wrote: New Nocturne here, I'm only 17 so I still don't have all of my masteries, nor do I have any T3 runes. What jungling path should I be taking? The safe path that I've seen (dual golem -> wraith -> wolf -> blue, b, wolf -> wraith -> red -> dual golem) isn't doable because I have almost no health when I go to take blue. Or should I be laning instead? It's okay not being able to do full clears at that level. When you're jungling at the point you are, as long as you start to learn the feel of knowing when lanes are gankable, warding, and learning to have control over the buffs then you're on a good track. If you have teammates that will pull blue for you, then start with blue then go down wolf -> wraith -> golems, go back, then do red. Open with cloth + 5pots. If you're on purple side and the opposing team doesn't have a jungler, you will sometimes be able to get first blood by getting your top and mid laners to pull red, get lvl 2 and get E, then gank top. But the "safest" route in the current jungle at your level and runes would be starting blue. | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On January 12 2012 06:17 Mogwai wrote: I'm partial to HoG + Avarice post-wriggles on Noct myself. One of the top Nocturnes from last season told me he almost always went Lantern -> HoG -> Ava -> Wits/evaluate near the "end" of S1, but that was before jungle changes. I imagine it's stronger now. | ||
skrzmark
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koreasilver
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You have to make use of champion design. | ||
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