Which team league format do you prefer? - Page 13
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
Plus, it allows for less opportunity for one person to carry a team on their shoulders. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On February 21 2012 06:20 Forikorder wrote: what exactly is teh pro-league format? ive never watched one before In essence... It is a set of of maps that are already predetermined. The coach picks one player to play on each map. The team who wins the most maps wins the match. Normally it is done with an even number of maps--so that in a tie an Ace match is played where any player is allowed to play (allowing top players to play twice instead of once). Maps are known ahead of time. Players may or may not be known ahead of time. | ||
hakha
Australia87 Posts
On February 20 2012 23:10 Inflicted_ wrote: For map-sniper: SlayerS vs MvP in GSTL Feb(?) Finals - Frozen vs Keen on Tal'Darim Altar. One match doesnt constitute a map sniper..... For current SPL, look at brave from KHAN going 6-0 on Chain Reaction | ||
SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
But since January is a bit of a troll she does the opposite most of the time xd | ||
Pocky52
United States463 Posts
anyways I have been following all of the team leagues recently, (and there have been a lot ^_^) but I was wondering what everyone thought the merits of each format. I mean this in a variety of ways, which I will explain. There is first off the Global Starcraft II Team League (GSTL), which if I understand correctly simply chooses teams, which then compete in the season. There are a total of 10 teams that have or are participating in this season. Their tournament format, this season, is sort of a double elimination bracket with the top two seeds getting 'byes.' In each individual match, they use a Bo9 all-kill format. By all-kill format I mean that all-kills are possible, or that essentially it is a KOTH type deal. Next there is IGN ProLeague Team Arena Challenge (IPL TAC). They invited 12 teams, and then held 2 qualifiers in which another 4 teams qualified for competition, for a total of 16 participants. Their tournament format is a straight up double elimination bracket, and their individual matches are the same as the GSTL's (Bo9 all-kill, loser picks map.) Then there is the new North American Starcraft II Team League (NASTL). NASTL used the top 4 placing teams from the GosuCoaching Premiere League Season 2, and then also, like IPL TAC, held two qualifier tournaments in which the top two teams advanced to the rest of the tourney. This gives NASTL a total of 8 teams in their regular tournament. They have decided to have a round robin tournament, after which the top 4 teams will be placed in to a playoff bracket. Their individual match set up is a little different as well, having both teams blindly choose their first 4 players based on maps, and then it ends up being a Bo5, with each set between players being a Bo1. If the score ends up tied at 2-2 after the first 4 maps, the teams then each have 1 player they get to choose for an Ace Match. This set is a Bo3 to determine who takes the match point (the 5th game). There have also been other team leagues, like the GosuCoaching one mentioned above, and EG's team league. EG's team league had a similar match format to that of NASTL's but also included 2v2 teams for one of the sets. This is the format the HSL and CSL follow as well. The original IPL Team Arena used a format similar to what IPL Fight Club is now, however was presented as less of a tournament, as it was a KOTH showmatch. Also to note I am simply talking about the most recent seasons, because I know the GSTL has also utilized the round robin format. What do you guys think is the best, what is your favorite format? Personally, I think that they all have their own flavor, and love having all of them, to provide a variety of events to watch. I like watching the all-kill format, because, well there's always the possibility of an all-kill! But I like watching the preset matches, because you generally get to see more players and it usually means that the team needs to have more all around talent, rather than one or two aces who can just sweep. The Bo1s mean that there is also a greater chance of upsets, which I find enjoyable and exciting. The inclusion of ace matches sort of prevents too many upsets though... I would like to see more 2v2s, but feel that it needs to develop more first. I also like the round robin tournaments, simply because you get to see all the teams play each other, and with the brackets I think it is easy to feel slighted when one gets matched up right away against someone who would be considered a heavy favorite, essentially the same as any other tournament. The biggest issue in having lots of groups and round robin set ups is time and the tournaments taking too long, so all in all it's an understandable compromise. I think this leads into more frequently occurring seasons, which if the tournaments employ more qualifiers to rotate out the other performers, allowing us to see more up and coming teams, and as a result of that more up and coming players! I'd love to here what your optimized league would be, what you think is reasonable, and what you are looking forward to in the future! No matter what, we should all enjoy this recent influx of team leagues, and all of their various formats, even if sub-optimal, as they all have their own different values, and their variety is a value in and of itself. :D Sorry about the redundant thread too >.> | ||
sToFu
United States189 Posts
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
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Talic_Zealot
688 Posts
On February 21 2012 15:19 birdkicker wrote: Although GSTL styled team leagues will always be more fun and dynamic for spectators to watch and commentators to commentate, it's not really ideal to play with as a player because its only a BO1. That's just it.. It is for teams not players., so it is actually a best of 5. It seems people are not team fans yet at all. So maybe I should change my answer. Winnersleague allows the fans to cheer for their favourite players in the beginning and experience some of the atmosphere, other formats should be slowly introduced through time. Unfortunately we don't have PL's season system where they have the wiggle room of introducing another format for a whole round:until this year they played Winnersleague(gstl style) in one of the 5 rounds before the play-offs. An inverted version of this would be a good way to introduce people, but we don't have that kind of stretched time frame for starleagues nor teamleagues. | ||
Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
Winner's format let's cool shit happen without as much preparation as sniping just involves a player picking 1-2 maps and playing on them a ton while preparing for one opponent. | ||
Talic_Zealot
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Ducci
United States588 Posts
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Talic_Zealot
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