[Champion] Nocturne - Page 4
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14054 Posts
On March 18 2011 19:55 necrosed wrote: Damn, I suck with him. I'll try the 2 HoG build, since I die so much. Try to see yourself more as a cleanup/"Q as many people as you can and E if someone gets close" champ instead of a brawler before you finish your tanky items. You just explode when you enter a teamfight as one of the first obviously. Also, I have to say... Nocturne ult+WW E / Shrooms / Wards is imba as hell. Especially the WW thing if he maxes it before his W. Great combo. ;D | ||
BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On March 18 2011 10:36 -Kato- wrote: I just played against Noc as Yi, and we had a 1v1 battle where I was lvl 18 and he was lvl 13, both with wriggles, GB, BF as items, and I barely managed to kill him due to superior korean micro. How is this fair! Yi must still be Yi maaaaaan. You're doing it wrong. You didn't alpha strike to avoid the fear most likely. Noc's sustained dps is fairly low compared to yi. | ||
Tal
United Kingdom993 Posts
Perhaps he has just slightly too much health regen, but that could be because of playing on TT. Overall a nice new champ. | ||
EnrageD
Canada230 Posts
Yes.. this is AFTER they fixed ghost being able to walk through it too. | ||
Frorgon
United States146 Posts
Like Eve, I feel like Nocturne is almost a natural taunt. People tend to be scared and focus me first, so often times I start a tanky item after I've gotten a brutalizer but before I finish the ghostblade. Otherwise my build is pretty much the same as most people have suggested. The exception is the AS runes because I don't yet have any. I do plan on getting them though. There are certain things that seem to counter Nocturne pretty hard. One is Shen. Most of my games contained a Shen on the enemy team who would port in any time I ulted someone. Also it seems like it's better for your team to have a lot of aoe capability if you have a Nocturne. Teams tend to stack up later in the game for teamfights because of your ult. I have lost games because the opposite was in effect; my team didn't have much aoe and the other team had Katarina. We'd try to focus her first, but not before she'd destroy the whole team with lotus. Lost like 3 straight to teams with Shen and Kat after good starts. | ||
bakedace
United States672 Posts
Hes a great initiator and I am having good luck with this. As for the DPS items I get rageblade and black cleaver usually, selling the wriggles when I need to. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
Not in that order, but whatev. | ||
awesomoboi
United States42 Posts
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Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
Oh noes we can't see. Oh look somebody died. | ||
phyvo
United States5635 Posts
As for masteries yeah defense is safer and about the same jungling speed as offense, so I'd pick between the two based more on what you want later in the game or if you're really concerned about your offensive mastery jungling. | ||
fadestep
United States605 Posts
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
It's weird though. At the 20 minute mark I was like 4-1-3. At the end I was 4-5-16 with a victory. I must add that while it has not been discussed much in this thread, and I don't think it's too practical because of his power as an assassin from the jungle, Nocturne is a pretty good laner. When we did that Nocturne Amumu combo last night, my friend wanted to jungle amumu so I went in the duel lane. Last hitting is easy, especially when combined with the passive. Also, his Q is really good for harassment and farming. I was hitting champs at their tower with its long range without suffering any consequences. Ganks were pretty easy when Amumu came around. For my laning build I started with a Doran's Shield, then picked up a ghostblade and bloodthirster. Everything else was tanky stuff (Banshees and then Sunfire, etc). | ||
phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Running my own weird defensive masteries, 1/19/10. Allows me to wraithjack, and i've seen many ppl head straight to my wolves to try and gank, so can see that coming. Seems to be working out so far. I really wanted to put some mrgen/lvl runes as all game he just lacks mana to do anything (if ppl keep taking ur blue grr..) My friend plays a mean Nocturne, so i'll have to jungle WW and rape things up when we're playing. Edit: Just schooled another Nocturne jungler. Stole his wraiths, farmed my side. Got 2 ganks. Was lvl 8 when he hit 6 hahaha. | ||
FrostWyrm
United States10 Posts
Has anyone tried like a solo-lane nocturne yet? I really want to experiment with this. Anyone have a build to recommend to me? | ||
Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Ashe was low in mid, so I started to ult for gank. Enemy noc also ulted and suddenly I couldnt see my target to fly over. Next thing our mid dies instead. Oh man I was furious. Thats such a good strat though I wanted to share | ||
Frorgon
United States146 Posts
And about the solo-lane Nocturne, I have not tried it yet but I suspect it could be alright. The nice thing is that the Q goes through everything so it isn't a difficult skill shot to hit. You can last hit multiple creeps with it if you need to stay at range, and you can also hit the enemy champ for harass. Since Nocturne does so much damage early game without the need for items you can really put pressure on the opponent. I've covered mid for a bit while jungling and had no problem. | ||
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