Question: Where does Flash rank in SC2? - Page 20
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LavaLava
United States235 Posts
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
On January 08 2013 18:19 xsnac wrote: man when you play 50-60 games a day and others play 25-35 . you improve faster even if you have 0 talent Yes, and that is so special about flash: he works sick hard, AND he has the required talent. | ||
mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On January 08 2013 10:39 decado90 wrote: Apparently, Stephano beating foreigners and Code B Koreans, then losing to Bomber and winning LSC 2 is more impressive than the best record in PL. I agree on Stephano, he's always been overhyped, but about Flash. PL matches don't stand up to standards if compared with regular Code S matches, most look like low Code A or even Code A qualifier matches (not saying PL isn't fun, it's a ton of fun to watch), which is why it's hard to assess Flash's real skill, since he keeps playing subpar players. I have no doubts in his potential, but I'm pretty sure he's not Code S level yet. | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:57 LavaLava wrote: Flash is not the best Starcraft 2 player, but he's already getting scary after less than half a year of playing it. I don't see how it could be called "overhype," as it's quite obvious that he's still catching up and quickly. Because some of the 'hype' was that he would win Code S in 6 months and that more than half Code S would be Kespa players. Of course, he is playing great and improving very quickly. But some of the 'hype' was just impossibly high, even for Flash. | ||
Savant
United States379 Posts
On January 09 2013 01:04 vthree wrote: Because some of the 'hype' was that he would win Code S in 6 months and that more than half Code S would be Kespa players. Of course, he is playing great and improving very quickly. But some of the 'hype' was just impossibly high, even for Flash. With men this is impossible; but with Flash all things are possible. | ||
nottapro
202 Posts
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:57 LavaLava wrote: Flash is not the best Starcraft 2 player, but he's already getting scary after less than half a year of playing it. I don't see how it could be called "overhype," as it's quite obvious that he's still catching up and quickly. A lot of Kespa playes have similar or better results than him, so he's not exactly the one that should be hyped either. Flash and Kespa players have only been playing the game for half a year, sure, but it's not like they have to play patch 1.0.1 and Steppes of War either. Playing time is not really as important as people make out to be. He's catching up, but the pace is not as amazing that it is supposed to be. | ||
LavaLava
United States235 Posts
On January 09 2013 01:04 vthree wrote: Because some of the 'hype' was that he would win Code S in 6 months and that more than half Code S would be Kespa players. Of course, he is playing great and improving very quickly. But some of the 'hype' was just impossibly high, even for Flash. Oh. I hadn't realized. Nevermind, you're all probably right about this. On January 09 2013 01:09 Savant wrote: With men this is impossible; but with Flash all things are possible. .........Yeah I think you're right about this. | ||
Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On January 08 2013 10:39 decado90 wrote: Apparently, Stephano beating foreigners and Code B Koreans, then losing to Bomber and winning LSC 2 is more impressive than the best record in PL. haha MKP,MMA,MVP,MC,Squirtle,Parting,Life,DRG,Hero,Ryung and many many many more. Code B Koreans ok buddy haha?? Comparing Stephano record in sc2 to Flash record is hilarious. Its like comparing Messi to some baseball superstar who decide he wanted to switch to soccer. | ||
mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On January 09 2013 03:24 Benjamin99 wrote: haha MKP,MMA,MVP,MC,Squirtle,Parting,Life,DRG,Hero,Ryung and many many many more. Code B Koreans ok buddy haha?? Comparing Stephano record in sc2 to Flash record is hilarious. Its like comparing Messi to some baseball superstar who decide he wanted to switch to soccer. Are you saying the skill levels in their respective disciplines are comparable? Messi is the best in the world, Stephano is VERY far from being the best in SC2. Goddamnit I had forgotten how deluded Stephano fans can be. | ||
Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:57 LavaLava wrote: Flash is not the best Starcraft 2 player, but he's already getting scary after less than half a year of playing it. I don't see how it could be called "overhype," as it's quite obvious that he's still catching up and quickly. Flash has the "disadvantage" of being known as BW god so some people expecting him to do way too much in way too little time aka overhyping. | ||
Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On January 09 2013 03:30 mordk wrote: Are you saying the skill levels in their respective disciplines are comparable? Messi is the best in the world, Stephano is VERY far from being the best in SC2. Goddamnit I had forgotten how deluded Stephano fans can be. Nice insults buddy. Very far from being the best?? http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 4 http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players rank 19 he is been pretty much in top 10 for over a year since he won IPL 3 Same with ELO Stats disagree with you On top of that no other players has done more for the Zerg race. He is an amazing innovator and you know what? He did that all by himself without any team house or coach. How many Korean players can say that? Hint the answer is none Stephano is one of the best in the world and has been for a very long time problem is he isn't Korean right?? This thread so funny Flash done nothing at all in sc2 but somehow he is the best there is. But I forgot he is Korean Only one who seems to be deluded is you! | ||
derpface
Sweden925 Posts
Yes its intentional. | ||
mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On January 09 2013 03:44 Benjamin99 wrote: Nice insults buddy. Very far from being the best?? http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 4 http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players rank 19 he is been pretty much in top 10 for over a year since he won IPL 3 Same with ELO Stats disagree with you On top of that no other players has done more for the Zerg race. He is an amazing innovator and you know what? He did that all by himself without any team house or coach. How many Korean players can say that? Hint the answer is none Stephano is one of the best in the world and has been for a very long time problem is he isn't Korean right?? This thread so funny Flash done nothing at all in sc2 but somehow he is the best there is. But I forgot he is Korean Only one who seems to be deluded is you! Sigh... I'm done with this.. there's no discussion with fanboys, you're all the same. Just like Elephant fanboys, or Grubby fanboys who voted him on 1st place on his U&D group by a ridiculous margin. For the record, I do agree Stephano is a great player, but he's far from the top, he hasn't even tried the GSL, we'll see then. I don't care about earnings or such stuff, he hasn't been tested in the toughest of grounds. | ||
shadowy
Bulgaria305 Posts
I am already a fan (and It's not carried from BW). | ||
RanDomFox
United States84 Posts
if proleague was so great, EG-TL would have put jaedong in to destroy flash like he did in the up and downs. but they dont really care about it. im not even a stephano fan, but he has won alot of tournaments, whereas flash hasnt. flash isnt the best, he isnt the best kespa player, he isnt even the best kespa terran. | ||
sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
On January 09 2013 04:04 RanDomFox wrote: once again, once flash actually wins something in sc2...then this question can actually be discussed. proleague is not a benchmark of greatness, the GSL code S is (which flash couldnt even get into). People want to win code s and the gstl, the best teams arent even in proleague. if proleague was so great, EG-TL would have put jaedong in to destroy flash like he did in the up and downs. but they dont really care about it. im not even a stephano fan, but he has won alot of tournaments, whereas flash hasnt. flash isnt the best, he isnt the best kespa player, he isnt even the best kespa terran. You got it completely wrong mate. EG cares quite a bunch about GSL (foreign market), hence they didn't play jaedong in Proleague but let him concentrate on his GSL games. Flash on the other hand, played Proleague in the morning and then still went on to play his Up and Down matches. KT could have easily played wooki, stats or whatever. However, they care about Proleague (Korean market) and therefore played Flash. Please do us all a favour ... get your shit straight and learn how to spell. | ||
Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On January 09 2013 03:53 mordk wrote: Sigh... I'm done with this.. there's no discussion with fanboys, you're all the same. Just like Elephant fanboys, or Grubby fanboys who voted him on 1st place on his U&D group by a ridiculous margin. For the record, I do agree Stephano is a great player, but he's far from the top, he hasn't even tried the GSL, we'll see then. I don't care about earnings or such stuff, he hasn't been tested in the toughest of grounds. It's more you being a hater then the other being fanboys. Stephano has been among the best of the world for a long time, even code S players admit that he was really scary. | ||
Shiori
3815 Posts
On January 09 2013 04:24 Faust852 wrote: It's more you being a hater then the other being fanboys. Stephano has been among the best of the world for a long time, even code S players admit that he was really scary. Stephano isn't one of the best in the world. He's good, but he's no MVP or Life or Parting. At no point in his career was he as dominant as any of those three have been. And the list goes on. The fact is that Stephano has won a few foreign tournaments, generally on the strength of his ZvP, and has taken down some Code S Koreans. This doesn't make you one of the best players in the world. Being consistently a force in Code S is what makes you one of the best in the world. | ||
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