probably code s ro8 on a good day level
Question: Where does Flash rank in SC2? - Page 3
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On January 07 2013 09:43 decado90 wrote: How is his TvT questionable? All of his macro TvT's have been great. Vs STC at MLG, Ryung in GSL, Taeja last night, and even the OSL series vs Last was good. Record wise: Last: 3-4 Baby: 2-2 Bbyong: 1-0 Taeja: 1-0 Snow: 1-0 Classic: 1-0 Kop: 1-0 Fantasy: 0-1 Bogus: 0-1 Ryung: 0-1 Supernova: 0-1 This amounts to Wins: 10 Losses: 11 at 47.62% According to Liquipedia. Although his mechanics are good; there has to be a reason why he's losing all of these TvTs; although when he loses to Ts he loses only to the top-tier ones (minus Last) | ||
BretZ
United States1510 Posts
In an interview he mentioned that he was practicing 50-60 games a day, not sure if that was every day, but that will certainly help his improvement. | ||
BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On January 07 2013 09:44 Dodgin wrote: he's really good, just got unlucky that tiebreakers didn't favor him in up/downs probably code s ro8 on a good day level The only map he dropped was Cloud Kingdom. If you look at his history on that map it's not very good. He dropped on CK to both MC and Jaedong but won all of the other maps including his all-kill. Also, people need to keep in mind that pro league players have a lot of different maps and match ups to practice. While GSL players only have to focus on a certain few maps for a certain player hence they face a lot less pressure then the Kespa players. Jaedong didn't participate in the EG pro league because he was focusing on the up/down matches whereas Flash had to practice for both which is a ton of different maps. Same goes for MC, he only had the GSL event to focus on and had a lot more preparation time. I'm sure the pro league players will take off once everything is reset with HotS. | ||
L3gendary
Canada1469 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
I mean, just look at his EGTL all-kill yesterday. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
It's hard to rate in that case. Do I rate the best I've seen from Flash, the worst, the average, etc? Because I mean you would never not rate MVP as a Code S player, but sometimes he looks worse than some players in Code B. And then there are times where he looks to be in a Code above every other player. In current skill, Flash is definitely in the A/S region. And in my eyes that's practically the top 50-ish players in the world. He didn't make it for this or the last season, but there are a tonne of players that fluctuate far more heavily. Rain for example isn't Code B, yet there he is. | ||
Witten
United States2094 Posts
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On January 07 2013 09:48 LighT. wrote: Record wise: Last: 3-4 Baby: 2-2 Bbyong: 1-0 Taeja: 1-0 Snow: 1-0 Classic: 1-0 Kop: 1-0 Fantasy: 0-1 Bogus: 0-1 Ryung: 0-1 Supernova: 0-1 This amounts to Wins: 10 Losses: 11 at 47.62% According to Liquipedia. Although his mechanics are good; there has to be a reason why he's losing all of these TvTs; although when he loses to Ts he loses only to the top-tier ones (minus Last) Ah, ok. It's just a matter of people not watching Starcraft and looking at a small sample size of results. Probably the same people that say Major is overrated. Is there anyone that actually watches and analyzes his games that thinks his TvT is bad? I'd like to hear from him. | ||
lubu42
United States314 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
Last: 3-4 Baby: 2-2 Bbyong: 1-0 Taeja: 1-0 Snow: 1-0 Classic: 1-0 Kop: 1-0 Fantasy: 0-1 Bogus: 0-1 Ryung: 0-1 Supernova: 0-1 Because it will be pointed out eventually, most of these are best of ones; Which does not a perfect gauge of skill make. | ||
neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On January 07 2013 09:30 Zealously wrote: According to Fantasy, Bisu is actually good again now. I'm having my doubts still though. But I agree, the Flash/Stephano fans are pretty bad, and seeing them collide in the LR thread yesterday was absolutely hilarious. He stopped trying to do stupid things and actually beat Roro with a real build in PL. I guess that could be regarded as success. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Flash is very similar to MVP and I like. He's more of the godly macro player who exercises methodical play with a little multipronged harass thrown in every now and then. I think he knows how to get away with his greed better than almost any player atm and he REALLY knows how to maintain a lead. I don't agree that his tvt is bad at all. He seems good enough to me. I think given proper analysis his TvZ can be exploited. I don't feel like he puts on enough pressure. He's kind of like how Bomber used to be. Even though he still would win a decent amount due to his insane macro. His TvP is by far his strongest and may very well be among the best. He seems to have a great understanding of the mu as well. | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On January 07 2013 09:27 insanet wrote: Now that Bisu sucks, Flash fans have taken the lead as the most annoying fans of all. Now that Bisu sucks, Flash haters have taken the lead as the most annoying haters of all. | ||
NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On January 07 2013 10:04 NoGasfOu wrote: Starcraft 2 is a game in which anyone can beat anyone once you've reached a certain level in terms of skill. There are about 300 of those players at this level. I don't think a player can be ranked anywhere. It all depends on accomplishments, hypes, fan favorites; and accomplishments come from the amount of opportunities you get in tournaments. For example, Stephano. There is no player that gets more opportunities than Stephano. He gets sent around the world to any tournament he wants; and he only has about 53% winrate vs GSL dropout Koreans. Players like Life, Leenock, and DRG have much better winrates, mostly vs Code S, yet each won less money than Stephano. You can say Flash is gosu and a top player all you want (the fact that he's in Code A), but any good Code B can all kill a top team in his good day. Any good Code B can beat Flash on his good day. So, about a few hundred of them rank about the same in terms of skill, unless you're thinking of rank in terms of prize money won, hypes, fan favorite, or famous,.....? Where are you getting those stats from? | ||
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