Any other Terrans really displeased with HotS? - Page 2
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kade
94 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
The BC and Raven "fixes" are very disappointing though. From here, it should be only a question of balance. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10416 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:08 kade wrote: i haven't seriously played sc2 since the beta, can someone fill me in as to what makes mech not viable? Immortals + Chargelots + Blinkstalkers. It would be interesting to see if it gets better if you remove one of the tree but atm thats not really realistic. | ||
Brahoono
119 Posts
Raven fix was expected. Maybe they will tweak it to lower damage and lower energycost. 100 energy was probably just some relic from some internal testings. Mines will recieve at least a buff to 1 supply imho. Not entirely sure if they readd a changed Warhound...I actually think they will if Battlehellion and a buffed mine is not enough to make mech viable in PvT. Terran had very little holes in their race to begin with. The two biggest ones were mech in PvT especially and the Reaper. Both got buffed...so it's hard to justify a new unit/ability at this point. We probably have to wait some weeks to see how it pans out. | ||
pmp10
3137 Posts
If you believe terran is poorly implemented right now then that's the case due to blizzards actions. Since HotS comes from the same developer the history is bound to repeat itself. | ||
lschiss16
15 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
Right now I'm still happy as I meched even in WoL so... | ||
Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
Protoss have a spell to nullify the only thing that can help terrn win games (EMP and conc shells vs chargelots). Vipers murder mech with not 1 but 2 spells. TvT is going to be what ZvZ and PvP used to be with new reapers. All I can forsee for tvt is 1 base play as the player that expands, especially if its an fe, will just die to the player making reapers. | ||
SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:55 LgNKami wrote: Terran has been fucked since ghost nerf in WoL. HotS is just the topping on the cake seeing that nothing is changing besides terran maybe using a couple of widow mines. Protoss have a spell to nullify the only thing that can help terrn win games (EMP and conc shells vs chargelots). Vipers murder mech with not 1 but 2 spells. TvT is going to be what ZvZ and PvP used to be with new reapers. All I can forsee for tvt is 1 base play as the player that expands, especially if its an fe, will just die to the player making reapers. The oracle shield is practically useless vs EMP... | ||
Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:58 SarcasmMonster wrote: The oracle shield is practically useless vs EMP... ... (derp) I thought the phase shield was an aoe thing. didnt know it targeted a single unit. MY B BRUH | ||
SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
Only the "anti-cloaking" effect. It still hits like a truck. | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
I'm trusting this is an attempt at creating the same sort of feeling of disappointment as protoss just had, that led to the latest protoss changes. I hope Blizzard sees through it and makes changes based on good game design principles instead of just continuously giving in to the most vocal negative opinions. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:55 LgNKami wrote: Terran has been fucked since ghost nerf in WoL. HotS is just the topping on the cake seeing that nothing is changing besides terran maybe using a couple of widow mines. Protoss have a spell to nullify the only thing that can help terrn win games (EMP and conc shells vs chargelots). Vipers murder mech with not 1 but 2 spells. TvT is going to be what ZvZ and PvP used to be with new reapers. All I can forsee for tvt is 1 base play as the player that expands, especially if its an fe, will just die to the player making reapers. In terms of Phase Shield, I don't know how that's going to work...I think they're going to have to tweak that or remove it. Not because it's OP but because it's kind of...silly. Vipers murder mech but we can all agree that battlehellions are awesome and, like firebats in BW, will end up becoming very useful against blinding cloud. If anything, I think the TvZ units balance against each other the best so far. Also, 1rax FE into 3 rax is safe with micro and positioning against 2-rax reaper. I've seen both ForGG and LastShadow do this. Maybe with the combat awareness it might be a little more difficult, but I think the main change will be just putting a bunker down by each CC (which doesn't put you that far behind because your opponent made 2-rax reaper). | ||
Chloroplaste
France281 Posts
>I liked BC little buff damage too >Ghost cloak change is lame yeah and not more intuitive >The Widow Mine Should stay to 2 supply ! It's not supposed to be mass, and it's cost effecient versus nearly all unit. It's already a really powerful unit ! >I agree with battle hellion >and reaper (but it can be too powerfull in tvt) >Raven is already good for late, maybe just 25more hp or/and some speed. >Maybe a new unit should be added but Terran has already equal or more units, possibility's (if we balance bc too), and upgrade than the other race. | ||
rpgalon
Brazil1069 Posts
have you guys seen any PvX? is the same shit over and over again. this is not about what race is OP or not, but denying that Terran is the most diverse and complete race is stupid, the other races have yet to catch up. by the way, terran is getting the same number of new units as zerg. | ||
Xerxes Wrath
48 Posts
On September 15 2012 21:59 Grapefruit wrote: I think it's totally fine for a tier 4 unit that costs 400/300, takes 6 supply and 1,5 minutes to build to do some really serious damage. Lol, Terrans players complain about BC? Just take a look at carrier | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:49 rpgalon wrote: terran QQing because they can't use mech in TvP without even trying the 2 new mech units... have you guys seen any PvX? is the same shit over and over again. Ever heard of the stargate? Before you complain about Terrans complaining, how about you go build and use a stargate for anything that isn't cheese :p | ||
Aquila-
516 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:59 Aquila- wrote: The are gonna have to come up with something really interesting for Terran or there is no reason to buy Hots just to get a HP buff on the hellion and a useless 2 supply mine. Let us hope there will be a new modified warhound. Agreed. Putting balance aside, they just have to add something, purely from a marketing perspective. Not everybody browse teamliquid or are as hardcore players as most of the people here. The casual terran players wouldn't buy an expansion for a mine and a hp buff on the hellion. I imagine it like this: Protoss get superpowered tier 3 air unit with big range and lots of hp. They also get new base defences and a new harrassing and support unit. Zerg get a burrowing unit that makes unlimited waves of expendable units to swarm the opponent. They also get a flying spellcaster that can grab the most expensive units in the opponents army and can also help to bust through enemy defense. And Terran gets a mine and hp buff on the hellion xD Oh and reaper hp regeneration LOL | ||
Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
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