2012 NCAA College Football Season - Page 11
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
for USC, ugly 2nd half of offense (non offense is more like it... wtf is going on) vs UW but the first half was pretty nice and the defense was dominant. 5 sacks and 4 takeaways. i'll take the 24-14 road W. 5-1 with some key losses by teams ranked ahead of us. SCAR got their 1st loss and WVU got demolished. hopefully WV can take out k-state next week! | ||
coMbs
United States50 Posts
On October 14 2012 08:50 Ferrose wrote: Notre Dame could have beaten 6 FCS schools and still be in the top 25 just for being Notre Dame. Notice: Notre Dame was unranked at the beginning of the season. Also note: they have beaten 6 FBS schools, 3 of them ranked. It's tiring listening to people blindly hating on Notre Dame. They have the most difficult schedule by far this year and they are 6-0, half way there. Granted, they have Oklahoma and USC on the second half of their schedule and they are both on the road. I'm not saying they should be ranked #1, but give credit where it's due. If they win out they sure as hell deserve a spot in the championship game, and if they only lose one they still deserve a BCS game. | ||
Damiani
United States514 Posts
On October 14 2012 13:25 coMbs wrote: Notice: Notre Dame was unranked at the beginning of the season. Also note: they have beaten 6 FBS schools, 3 of them ranked. It's tiring listening to people blindly hating on Notre Dame. They have the most difficult schedule by far this year and they are 6-0, half way there. Granted, they have Oklahoma and USC on the second half of their schedule and they are both on the road. I'm not saying they should be ranked #1, but give credit where it's due. If they win out they sure as hell deserve a spot in the championship game, and if they only lose one they still deserve a BCS game. It would be impossible for Notre Dame to not make it to the NCG if they go undefeated. If any SEC team play the schedule Notre Dame got this year they would make it to the NCG even with one loss. But the question would be who would get knocked off if both Bama and Oregon goes undefeated. My top 5 : 1. Oregon / Bama 2. Notre Dame 3. Florida 4. Oregon State 5. USC / K.State Edit: I would put Ohio.State at #4 and Oregon St. #5 but Ohio St. is banned so no point. | ||
LosingID8
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On October 14 2012 13:44 Damiani wrote: But the question would be who would get knocked off if both Bama and Oregon goes undefeated. Bama are the defending champs (should be irrelevant, but it's not), they're ranked #1 almost unanimously right now, and they play in what most people consider the hardest conference. If they win out they'll be #1 in both human polls at the end of the regular season. Oregon would probably get the shaft if those 3 teams are all unbeaten. If Kansas State goes unbeaten (which I don't think will happen anyway) they'll definitely get shafted... just look at what happened to that school with the BCS in 1998 and 99. | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
Oklahoma destroying Texas for 2nd straight year. Didn't expect that one. And boy Auburn is in for some deep shit. | ||
Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ranking Team Record Points Previous 1 Alabama (60) 6-0 1500 1 2 Oregon 6-0 1436 2 3 Florida 6-0 1361 4 4 Kansas State 6-0 1296 6 5 Notre Dame 6-0 1283 7 6 LSU 6-1 1153 9 7 Ohio State 7-0 1071 8 8 Oregon State 5-0 1050 10 9 South Carolina 6-1 1042 3 10 Oklahoma 4-1 994 13 11 USC 5-1 874 11 12 Florida State 6-1 836 12 13 Georgia 5-1 753 14 14 Clemson 5-1 673 16 15 Mississippi State 6-0 591 19 16 Louisville 6-0 574 18 17 West Virginia 5-1 552 5 18 Texas Tech 5-1 444 NR 19 Rutgers 6-0 405 20 20 Texas A&M 5-1 379 22 21 Cincinnati 5-0 294 21 22 Stanford 4-2 242 17 23 Michigan 4-2 177 25 24 Boise State 5-1 133 24 25 Ohio 7-0 104 NR Dropped from rankings: Texas 15, Louisiana Tech 23 | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
Florida ranked over KSU seems odd to me. But pollsters continue to show that they will choose the SEC over the big 12 (except for Auburn in '03), or is 'Bama last year finishing second in their division and getting the nod over Okie State not evidence enough? | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
On October 15 2012 03:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote: What's funny is Ohio State can probably go 12-0 with that schedule they have. OSU vs Michigan should be fun. Running QBs all over the place. If Urban Meyer goes 12-0 in his 1st season, oh boy, Michigan can forget about 10-2 season Brady Hoke had in his 1st year.Ohio State is the worst looking undefeated team. They've barely scraped by some pretty awful competition. And that defense... barf. | ||
LosingID8
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Damiani
United States514 Posts
On October 19 2012 11:14 LosingID8 wrote: wow oregon is a machine. I'm actually stunned. I thought this was going to be a little closer than this. Statement game perhaps? | ||
don_kyuhote
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On October 19 2012 11:30 don_kyuhote wrote: just another day Oregon puts up big numbers against weak competition. Not really surprised. Yeah I mean it was only a top 10 defense in the country up to this point. | ||
don_kyuhote
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Damiani
United States514 Posts
On October 19 2012 14:34 don_kyuhote wrote: You don't seriously think ASU defense is top 10 in the country do you? It's not a matter if he thinks ASU is a top 10 defense it's on the fact sheet. It's amazing how much anti pac-12 people is on this board. ASU is a respectable team. The way Oregon demolished ASU is just a picture of how dominating Oregon really is. ASU only loss was to Missouri was on on the road. 24-20. Would of been a totally different story had they played at home. | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
And yeah, Oregon is a dominant team within Pac-12. USC probably is the only team that can challenge them in Pac-12, and they'll probably play twice, once at USC and the championship game at whoever wins the first meeting. | ||
Signet
United States1718 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:54 don_kyuhote wrote: Fact sheet is not a good indicator at all, not that there is one. It's just stats with no consideration of how good opposing offense is, which means it is bound to be inaccurate. In 2009, Texas had I believe #1 defense in the country against the run after regular season, but those stats were earned against Big 12 competition. As we all know, Alabama exposed them pretty badly. And yeah, Oregon is a dominant team within Pac-12. USC probably is the only team that can challenge them in Pac-12, and they'll probably play twice, once at USC and the championship game at whoever wins the first meeting. Bad example. Alabama gained just 263 yards against Texas. Half of their points came off turnovers, with a pick-6 to end the first half and two interceptions leading to drives starting inside the red zone in the final few minutes of the game after the outcome had been decided (at which point the defense seemed to have checked out). Anything short of a top defense would have been run off the field in the first half, with the way the Texas offense couldn't stay on the field longer than 3 plays under Gilbert. | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
On October 19 2012 22:16 Signet wrote: Bad example. Alabama gained just 263 yards against Texas. Half of their points came off turnovers, with a pick-6 to end the first half and two interceptions leading to drives starting inside the red zone in the final few minutes of the game after the outcome had been decided (at which point the defense seemed to have checked out). Anything short of a top defense would have been run off the field in the first half, with the way the Texas offense couldn't stay on the field longer than 3 plays under Gilbert. you have a case. My example was bad. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
The first experience I had with PAC-12 was in 1998 at the FSU-USC game. I remember thinking the Trojan mascot was silly. We dominated 30-10 (the score doesn't tell the same story, USC were wimps). I'm pretty sure we're 16 and 3 all time against them. That's what I think of when I watch PAC-12 games. Oregon puts up joke numbers and look at who they play. Fact: Every time a PAC team has gone to the national championship against a southern team their stats drop by half and they lose. If you had to play Florida and Miami grade teams every year then PAC schools wouldn't be getting crapped on in polls. I don't look down on PAC like they're MWC or Sunbelt. But it's not a top 3 conference. Oregon wants national respect? Don't schedule your out of conference games with the fuckin Sunbelt and MWC or the Ohio Valley Conference. Oregons strength of schedule makes Murray State look challenging. If they go against Bama they're going to lose. Horribly. Editing this in- Let me just say that I like watching Oregon. But Florida has the harder schedule and when a SEC team is undefeated my left nut has a better chance than a PAC team of being ranked above the SEC team. Nobody has to worry one bit though because Florida is losing their last game of the season so all Oregon has to do is not lose! | ||
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