Agree with a video review even though it's not full and beginning was cut but the middle part and ending is enough to determine that there was no physical resistance from Eric Garner who actually was the one reasoning police and those 'I can't breathe! I can't breath!' when white cop chokes him makes me sick. Those 'humans' are worse than animals. No matter what he did - choking is illegal when there is no physical resistance.
Staten Island Resident Eric Garner Dies after Chokehold fr…
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
Agree with a video review even though it's not full and beginning was cut but the middle part and ending is enough to determine that there was no physical resistance from Eric Garner who actually was the one reasoning police and those 'I can't breathe! I can't breath!' when white cop chokes him makes me sick. Those 'humans' are worse than animals. No matter what he did - choking is illegal when there is no physical resistance. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States21737 Posts
Eric Garner, a New York man allegedly selling illegal “loosies” – single cigarettes – outside a Staten Island store, died Thursday after police used an unauthorized street fighting move known as a “chokehold” to subdue the 350-pound man. The stark contrast between a minor street crime – one which Mr. Garner had been arrested for many times – and the tragic consequence of leaving a widow with six kids has forced New Yorkers to revisit some of the darker chapters for the city’s elite but oft-chastised police force, and to rehash what many thought were long-settled issues. According to Police commissioner William Bratton, chokeholds used by at least two police officers to subdue Garner came after the man pleaded with a gaggle of officers to leave him alone as he was “minding his own business.” “Every time you see me, you want to mess with me,” Garner can be heard saying. “I'm tired of it. It stops today. I'm minding my business please just leave me alone." The encounter escalated to the point of a faceoff, whereupon one officer wraps his arm around his neck even as Garner, now on the ground, pleads that he can’t breathe. A few minutes later Garner loses consciousness as the officer mashed his face into the sidewalk – the victim of a fatal heart attack. A bigger question remained: Why did two veteran officers feel free to employ a tactic banned in 1993, especially given that a civil conversation may have deescalated the ordeal. In 1994, a year after the city banned the tactic altogether, NYPD Officer Francis Livoti killed Bronx resident Anthony Baez with a chokehold after Mr. Livoti’s cruiser was hit by a football being thrown around by friends. Livoti was found not guilty of negligent homicide, but later served seven years in prison after a federal court found he violated Baez’ civil rights. "Chokeholds are prohibited by the New York City Police Department and most departments," Commissioner Bratton said at a news conference Friday. The New York Police Department and mayors have fought for controversial tactics that focus on low-level crimes, arguing tactics like the controversial “stop-and-frisks” are not only constitutional but effective in curbing local crime rates. Some courts have disagreed with at least the first notion, forcing the city to largely abandon the policy. Source | ||
GreenHorizons
United States21737 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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fmod
Cayman Islands330 Posts
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On July 21 2014 06:56 fmod wrote: Not the first time I heard abuse from USA police officers... Seems like there is something deeply wrong with the law enforcement system in USA. It's just totally unnecessary to use this amount of violence. I dont think its something to do with the law enforcement system. I personally think its because its a country where there is a war on drugs and violent gangs have been popping up everywhere in the last MANY years. But then again, I honestly believe only a cop could truely answer whats wrong. They are the ones in the shadow of bad cops and the ones that get patrol the sewer everyday. | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On July 21 2014 06:52 Terranist wrote: what do you want us to talk about? it is a tragedy but there isn't much to say other than it sucks that this happens once in a while. The more people that hear about this shit the better imo. Absolutely disgusting. | ||
Piste
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
Didn't look like he intended to kill or maim the guy but he broke the rules and it cost the man his life so he should be held accountable. Of course I highly doubt justice will be served. | ||
iFU.pauline
France1386 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands20678 Posts
On July 21 2014 08:51 Ettick wrote: Cops need to be less rough when dealing with unarmed people in general. Stuff like this wouldn't happen if all cops treated "civilians" like actual people. Being a cop is a dangerous thing, I have little problem with police being rough on civilians who use physical force. HOWEVER on no circumstance is choking a man acceptable regardless of his actions. The officer should be prosecuted under the full extent of the law, tobad America has a bad history of punishing cops if they cross the line. | ||
Epishade
United States2267 Posts
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On July 21 2014 12:54 Livelovedie wrote: Doesn't the police force in theory have to attract this type of person? This is definitely terrible, but is it even possible to have a person who shows restraint be a cop? I'd assume some of the 800,000ish police who don't make headlines are able to show restraint. | ||
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On July 21 2014 13:11 DannyJ wrote: I'd assume some of the 800,000ish police who don't make headlines are able to show restraint. I dunno, I would normally say it's just a few bad apples giving the rest of the good guys a bad name, but these stories are unbelievably common. What is notable is that this is one of many cases that has caught national attention. Shit like this happens almost on a daily basis. | ||
hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On July 21 2014 13:11 DannyJ wrote: I'd assume some of the 800,000ish police who don't make headlines are able to show restraint. They need to do more than that. They should get rid of their "colleagues" who are prone to use excess force before something like this happens. I doubt this was the first time these thugs used excessive force but they either weren't reported or the reports weren't handled properly. It's not a few bad apples, it's an institutional problem. | ||
Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 21 2014 13:38 hypercube wrote: They need to do more than that. They should get rid of their "colleagues" who are prone to use excess force before something like this happens. I doubt this was the first time these thugs used excessive force but they either weren't reported or the reports weren't handled properly. It's not a few bad apples, it's an institutional problem. Here is the one area where introducing cameras onto police officers -- maybe put them in their badges or make them wear those goofy google glasses -- would be a tremendous benefit. IIRC, there was a study that shows instances of both police brutality reports and police brutality outcomes drop significantly when the cop and the person he is interacting with both know there is a police tape of their interaction. | ||
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