That's what it is, currently. Cheese doesn't win you tournaments.
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
That's what it is, currently. Cheese doesn't win you tournaments. | ||
Wren
United States745 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
Look at GSTL also, today TSL will play against SlayerS. Those team consist of almost only Terrans, gonna be a TvT fest. On July 14 2011 15:35 Novalisk wrote: Terran has the strongest cheese currently, so getting ladder points is easier than with other races. That's what it is, currently. Cheese doesn't win you tournaments. Cheese dont win you tournaments? This is so wrong. Naniwa has won severly week cups back in the day were he only 4 gated, like literally one build won him one of those ZOTAC cups. Just because it was so strong back then. I believe now Terran can use perhaps against Z those 2 rax and against P those 1-1-1 builds. | ||
bOOgyWC
Germany153 Posts
Why play serious on ladder when you have a house full of beasts around you. And on the friendlist , too. It would be more representative to compare top10 bronze league... not...but you know what i mean. [edit] *cough* ok i just read bunnies comment. I would have thought they play more inhouse tournaments and train together. back to lurker mode i guess...[/edit] | ||
b_unnies
3579 Posts
Also Koreans takes laddering VERY seriously. Only time they don't ladder is when they have a televised match and instead just play customs. Some teams kick you out if you don't maintain a good enough rank on grandmasters. | ||
Wren
United States745 Posts
On July 14 2011 15:56 b_unnies wrote: Also Koreans takes laddering VERY seriously. Only time they don't ladder is when they have a televised match and instead just play customs. Some teams kick you out if you don't maintain a good enough rank on grandmasters. That's interesting. I remember hearing about NesTea particularly, and how nothing he did on the ladder could be trusted as preparation, because he just cheesed and played for lulz. | ||
SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On July 14 2011 16:42 Wren wrote: That's interesting. I remember hearing about NesTea particularly, and how nothing he did on the ladder could be trusted as preparation, because he just cheesed and played for lulz. He even said (in one of his interviews iirc) he doesn't play properly on the ladder and uses it to try weird builds out and stuff, not to win but to explore, which is really cool! | ||
lowkontrast
United States855 Posts
On July 14 2011 11:36 SafeAsCheese wrote: Korean terran actually know how to play their race, many foreign terran do not. God forbid a foreign terran besides Thorzain make a ghost or control more than 1 medivac at once. Select comes to mind, no? | ||
Crossed9
50 Posts
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
On July 14 2011 16:42 Wren wrote: That's interesting. I remember hearing about NesTea particularly, and how nothing he did on the ladder could be trusted as preparation, because he just cheesed and played for lulz. That's what I said. They don't use ladder to practice for televised matches | ||
Divination
United States139 Posts
EU is more balanced because there are solid T/P/Z's all arorund. KR obviously have idols like Boxer and Flash that surely influenced many koreans to play terran. | ||
Samhax
1054 Posts
Edit: Oh and NASL event same story, no foreigner Terran did well. | ||
sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
As many have said, certain maps/positions are strongly favoured towards terran. Now, since Korean players have always been one step above the western scene, this shows more clearly on their ladder. To put this in other words - in NA/EU the pure skill of, say, players like WhiteRa can overcome map-specific imbalance, while on Korea this isn't possible anymore because the terrans are ALSO playing their all-ins near perfection. Since tournaments are generally much more racially balanced, it simply shows that Blizzard should rethink their standpoint about small ladder-maps (actually, they are doing that right now, if we think about the recent interview of David Kim...) | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
2) Ladder maps have close spawns LOL 3) The good players of the other races are not laddering as much. Wheres MC, Puzzle, Hero? Wheres Dongraegu, Losira, Nestea? Meanwhile we have MKP, MVP etc all laddering hard. EDIT: Actually MC has climbed a lot since I last checked, he ll be top 20 soon. | ||
Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
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teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
Nah, in all seriousness... Korean Terrans seem to have it way more sorted out than we do. I mean, if I had the choice between going with a race that no one knows how to use, or one that everyone's been figuring out... I'm gonna go with the easy wins.... | ||
SedativeDev
Slovenia316 Posts
I think that doing all kind of statistical analysis on that kind of data is plain stupid. Ti doesn mean anything... | ||
Sbrubbles
Brazil5763 Posts
Ohgodyourpunwasterribleneverposthereagain. | ||
kckkryptonite
1126 Posts
On July 14 2011 14:49 TheDougler wrote: Puzzle and Tassadar have yet to prove themselves (altho I do think Puzzle's got what it takes). Inca is only good in one matchup and decent at his PvT. Doesn't make him a top level Protoss. Sage too has so far only dominated one (admittedly impressive) GSTL match, which is sick but I wouldn't give him too much credit yet. Agreed on Leenock, what on earth has viOlet done to impress you? And Zenio and line? They're ok... Not the kinda guys people really fear like they do all the other players mentioned. I think that original list is pretty solid in terms of representing the proven best of each race, (altho I dunno if I'd have Jinro in there these days, sorry Jinro). Well, right now they looks like standouts to me, probably not at the same level as the P/Z's you listed, but I don't think Jinro, Ryung, MMA, Polt are of the same level as Bomber, MVP, sC. Can't really use something subjective like this to prove a point. | ||
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