Power Rank 08/04/2009 - Page 29
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
On August 26 2009 02:46 nonduc wrote: KeSPA for #1 with it’s chairman from SKT! :-/ Word up. KeSPa totally steamrolled Jaedong | ||
vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On August 26 2009 02:14 piratebay wrote: i say just ignore vampyr, he is just rooting for the big names without any idea of the games the players played. bisu gets his ASS handed to him by iris on a silver platter, and somehow he is rank 3. fantasy demolishes in osl, proleague and ends up lower than bisu. you have stork who hasnt done much except play wcg, some proleague, and fail out of the starleagues get the #10 spot over iris who has been playing spectacularly up until his games against kwanro.... you really don't watch results you are just a dumbass troll vampyr the fans in korea are just the same as the fans in the US, we root for the players we love. and unless the boards are progamers telling us this or that or who is the strongest players at the moment, fuck what the fans say, doesnt matter much. you made me laught a lot ^^ i watch more korean games than you for sure , i know everything happened in the games of this months . the games in august can tell me who is better than who . and bisu is still better than fantasy ^^ . and dont talk about someting you dont know , korean have all their favourite players , but no one is korea would say X is better than jaedong or bisu . fantasy showed really great games , i like fantasy a lot now , i know what im talking about . i have some korean friend who know the korean scene more than everyone on TL , so i think im starting to know the scene really well now . you can love rafael nadal , andy murray , djokovic or who you want , YOU MUST admit federer is the best . nadal is my favourite , but i know federer is better . fantasy is my favourite , but i know bisu is better . its not hard to get this . P.S : i didnt insult anyone , so please calm down . | ||
Hieros
United States83 Posts
With that in mind, your statement dissolves into a contradiction. Also the notion that everyone in a country agrees on a well-ordered list of better to worse players is patently absurd. | ||
Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
From my perspective both players got bounced in the same fashion, with Bisu playing slightly better in his MSL loss than Fantasy's OSL loss, but Fantasy has a couple more clutch wins in PL playoffs to his advantage. We'll see in a couple days who's done better this month. | ||
integral
United States3156 Posts
Flash too, obviously. | ||
iamho
3344 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2736 Posts
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Orbifold
United States1922 Posts
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On August 26 2009 06:20 ThePhan2m wrote: Vampyr, you have no basis in why Bisu should be on top. Those games he prepared for (he had plenty of time to show his best skill), he failed. He hasnt played that many games this month yes, but he hasnt proven anything either, he might not bee as good, he might have his slump starting now for all we know?? because he has not PROVEN anything! Fantasy has showed great strength, he might begin his power reign into the Jaedong S-class this month, because of his wins and that he actually delivered wins in his games!! you dont know the future, this is the start of the future. This month's results decide the POWER rank. This month, Fantasy has shown to be stronger than Bisu. its about this months matches, not about what your korean friend tells you or who is overall history wise won most titles or who is the favorite among the koreans. Fantasy was better this month, deal with it ^^ he was not better . he just played more games . thats different . u wanna tell me about bisu lose vs iris ? fantasy get raped by jaedong in a pathetic way in my opinion . he has showed he is still some oov puppet without any reflexion himself . bisu lost 3 2 vs iris fantasy get RAPED by JD 3 1 iris vs bisu was really closer than JD/fantasy . bisu vs free and perfectman show me bisu is still at his level . fantasy vs JD hiya and kal show me fantasy is getting really more and more good , but not as good as some S-class . tell me where fantasy has proven to us he is better . in the MSL quarters maybe ? there is NOTHING in the fantasy games that show somehow fantasy became better than bisu . the PR is about who is better AT THE TIME , in this month like you said . at the time , we DONT have the proof that fantasy became better . so bisu is still above him . if federer dont play next month and nadal play , even if nadal win good matches , no one will say "HEY NADAL HAS BECAME BETTER ITS BIG" . SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE FANTASY BECAME BETTER . calm showed evidence he is now better than all the PR except maybe fantasy and bisu . flash is showing he is back at good level . i think he will even more . but he dont deserve to be above fantasy or yellow arnc yet . next months for sure . fantasy didnt showed yet he is clearly better than bisu . I PREFER A LOT FANTASY TO BISU , IM JUST OBJECTIVE . I HATE BISU I HATE BISU I HATE BISU | ||
Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
For me, i couldn't care less who is higher, fantasy or bisu. all I can hope for is that flash's gom win and ownage of effort will put him on the CNBC. Finger's crossed he MAY creep into #10. That would be good. Prolly worth partying about it too if it happens | ||
ShloobeR
Korea (South)3802 Posts
On August 26 2009 03:47 vaMpYr wrote: fantasy is my favourite , but i know bisu is better . its not hard to get this . vaMpYr wrote: fantasy get raped by jaedong in a pathetic way in my opinion . he has showed he is still some oov puppet without any reflexion himself . vaMpYr wrote: fantasy vs JD... show me fantasy is getting really more and more good I won't even comment on it but I don't know what you're talking about... You're using Bisu's games against Free & Perfectman to demonstrate that he has played better then Fantasy this month. To use your tennis analogy, this is like Federer beating a small child and someone who broke his arm. Fantasy has had the harder competition. I get your point about Bisu just not playing as many games, but honestly I think that's just not an excuse when you take Fantasy's clutch play in the proleague finals. JD is the better player IMO, it's not embarassing to lose to him... after that first game in the OSL who really thought Jaedong would beat Fantasy that quickly? Fantasy's losses were against JD and Kal... that's a pretty respectable loss list... I'm not saying that Bisu's loss list is worse (Iris & Free), but if you ask me who's played more impressively THIS month, it has to be Fantasy... Bisu has not done nearly enough in August to convince me that he should move up PAST Fantasy in the power rank, if Bisu was 2nd in July... I could see him KEEPING the 2nd spot. In the end, the upcoming WCG matches will be pretty fun to watch... although I personally don't put a lot of stock in WCG. | ||
luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
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Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
that's um.. kinda pretty good | ||
ShloobeR
Korea (South)3802 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Orbifold
United States1922 Posts
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
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darktreb
United States3014 Posts
We all knew Flash would bounce back and roll this month because he always does. He's clearly still the best late game TvZ player out there (and possibly the best TvZ player period seeing as how every Terran seems to be pretty bad against Zerg these days compared to the old T > Z days), and plays FvT. Hopefully he squeaks out a win against Bisu (a guy who Flash has always been good against until recently). But the ELO stuff is a bit excessive - ELO 2200 is a really really good cutoff between players who are good and players who are great, but going deep in leagues increases the risk of losing 3 games in a short period of time so I wouldn't put too much stock into much more than whether a player is > 2200 or not. Anyway, depending on JWD feels (comments like "Iris was Flash's only hard opponent in GOM" don't bode well haha) and WCG, Flash deserves to be anywhere from 4th to 8th. Either way, he'll never get the respect he deserves until he wins another MSL/OSL so what can you do until that happens again? | ||
darktreb
United States3014 Posts
On August 26 2009 15:36 Orbifold wrote: I don't see how anyone could argue with JD=1 unless something really crazy happens before the next rank. If he retires he should probably be taken off, though leaving him on out of respect works for me. | ||
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