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puppykiller
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Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
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EndingLife
United States1558 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3125 Posts
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Ty2
United States1431 Posts
Hi, I think this video would be helpful. Give it a watch sometime. | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On August 02 2014 13:15 puppykiller wrote: I was trying to ignore you so that u wouldn't get attention cuz there is nothing more to discuss about you. lol oh ok kiddo , what else is there to discuss? Except your terrible advice and viewpoints on how this game works when you are dead wrong about everything? User was warned for this post | ||
puppykiller
United States3125 Posts
Also you and I both know I 3-0'd you in pvp. This is a matchup you play and I don't. After this you refused to play my Terran with your Toss when I asked you. Did you want me to bring this up because it seems like you did... I derive no joy from having beef with you because it is not important to my life. I don't wanna derail the thread anymore if you wanna message me call me out in the official grudge match thread where I will promptly go back to ignoring you because I prefer chatting with my practice partners and clanmates then having beef with someone who can't make peace. User was warned for this post | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8521 Posts
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
On August 02 2014 14:01 Ty2 wrote: You can (not) watch this Words can't really describe how amazingly helpful this video is. All of the educational sessions that the korean pros do are helpful but this is the only one that's been given english subtitles. The video was taken down but I guess it was reuploaded which I'm very happy to see. It's a true gem. The major thing I recognize is how they stay calm no matter what even when it looks super bad. Sea does a great job of this and is probably the most vocal of the Korean amateurs when he does his educational session and he speaks like he's speaking to complete beginners which is good. His mouse clicks are always very composed, organized, and efficient. I'd suggest giving it a thorough watch if you're committed enough. As for the Gundam Rush you use its power is well expressed in the words of former/old school progamer Garimto-"Even though you know it’s coming, you can’t stop it." Those types of plays are very demanding of your micro and can make for very entertaining games but something like a DT or Reaver rush can really foil risky 1 base plays. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss) Here's a link to the infamous Flash build that talks in depth about mid game tvp and goes very far into the mid game. Just following a build order is good enough. Watching FPVOD's of professional players can also help a lot and is probably what I recommend the most. General hotkey setup goes 1, 2 for tanks 3 for vultures 4 for vultures+goliaths and 5 for science vessels. 6(I think?) for 3rd command center 8. 9, 0 for comsat. Some korean terrans follow this setup. Sea is great, watching that video at the minute. I was wondering about one thing though. He mentions his hotkey layout, and that STX Terrans were told (presumably) to copy it. I believe it is 1/2 - tanks, 3 - vultures, 4 - goliaths, 5 - vessels, 6 - expansion CC, and 7/8/9 - comstat. My main question is, how does he build production, I take this is in the late game when you need a lot of the hotkeys to control your large army. I have production on 3 - CC, 4 - Rax, 5 - Fac, 6 - Port, 7/8/9/0 - generally comstat. I use 1/2 as army hotkeys in the early game. How does he rally or make production smoothly in the late game? | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On August 02 2014 16:11 puppykiller wrote: I'm only willing to rap battle u cuz I don't want to practice. Even though your classless tactics can't kiss that which my ass shits. Aghast and sick I laugh, grin and hiss at your antics. My calloused hand grips your pants quick clasping at your flacid phalous. Now stand pissed raveged stripped of your scavanged man bits. Also you and I both know I 3-0'd you in pvp. This is a matchup you play and I don't. After this you refused to play my Terran with your Toss when I asked you. Did you want me to bring this up because it seems like you did... I derive no joy from having beef with you because it is not important to my life. I don't wanna derail the thread anymore if you wanna message me call me out in the official grudge match thread where I will promptly go back to ignoring you because I prefer chatting with my practice partners and clanmates then having beef with someone who can't make peace. lol I love how people think typing is considered freestyling, so pathetic...and yea you beat me 3 times PvP then you wouldn't re me with your terran lol, kind have the story backwards a little buddy...... But regardless what does you beating me 3 times for the first time in your life make our overall score out to like ... 20 or 30 to 3 W/L ratio in my favor? | ||
Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
On August 02 2014 14:01 Ty2 wrote: Helpful Video Hi, I think this video would be helpful. Give it a watch sometime. Wow thanks. | ||
REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
On August 02 2014 21:13 mau5mat wrote: Sea is great, watching that video at the minute. I was wondering about one thing though. He mentions his hotkey layout, and that STX Terrans were told (presumably) to copy it. I believe it is 1/2 - tanks, 3 - vultures, 4 - goliaths, 5 - vessels, 6 - expansion CC, and 7/8/9 - comstat. My main question is, how does he build production, I take this is in the late game when you need a lot of the hotkeys to control your large army. I have production on 3 - CC, 4 - Rax, 5 - Fac, 6 - Port, 7/8/9/0 - generally comstat. I use 1/2 as army hotkeys in the early game. How does he rally or make production smoothly in the late game? Location hotkeys. I will use 1 location for factories, 1 for the rallypoint and 1 for the expansion that is most likely to get drop harassed. Rerallying process Click F2 (factory location) -> click factory -> F3 (rallypoint location) -> right click -> repeat with next factory That's the reason why you should have nicely ordered factory placement in your base, with some practice you can rerally all factories in 2-3 seconds. | ||
tmdtmdtmd
9 Posts
On August 03 2014 20:37 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Location hotkeys. I will use 1 location for factories, 1 for the rallypoint and 1 for the expansion that is most likely to get drop harassed. Rerallying process Click F2 (factory location) -> click factory -> F3 (rallypoint location) -> right click -> repeat with next factory That's the reason why you should have nicely ordered factory placement in your base, with some practice you can rerally all factories in 2-3 seconds. That's not the best way to do rally though, the best way to do it is to crtl+# for each factory, then go to rally point location, then for i from 1 to numberOfFacts-1: rightclick, i++, like how you move your army, it's much faster and require no practice. Do the same whenever you build new facts. | ||
ArmadA[NaS]
United States346 Posts
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upro)wraith
Israel64 Posts
On August 04 2014 01:03 tmdtmdtmd wrote: That's not the best way to do rally though, the best way to do it is to crtl+# for each factory, then go to rally point location, then for i from 1 to numberOfFacts-1: rightclick, i++, like how you move your army, it's much faster and require no practice. Do the same whenever you build new facts. this is great in mid game but during the late game you already have 5-6 control groups of units and the rest used for scans. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 04 2014 01:03 tmdtmdtmd wrote: That's not the best way to do rally though, the best way to do it is to crtl+# for each factory, then go to rally point location, then for i from 1 to numberOfFacts-1: rightclick, i++, like how you move your army, it's much faster and require no practice. Do the same whenever you build new facts. That is the "best" way to set rally points (i.e. what progamers do). By mid to late game, you won't have enough hotkeys for your factories, unless you reassign all your hotkeys just to set rally points. Doesn't take long to learn to set rally with function keys, and it will help you in the long run. | ||
ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
On August 02 2014 06:18 Heartland wrote: I only came into this thread to look for amusing ninazerg comments. I am happy I found what I was looking for I don't feel like I properly delivered, considering how badly the OP is trollbait. However, I decided to not be needlessly cruel to newcomers just because they don't know how to phrase certain things. On August 02 2014 18:33 evilfatsh1t wrote: can you 2 retards take your stupid fight to PMs Because this thread was so damn good before? If you truly, deep down in your heart, thought this should be handled in PMs, you should have PM'd both of the parties and asked politely for them to stop, but guess what? You posted a confrontational post in the thread. | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8521 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3125 Posts
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