Question: Where does Flash rank in SC2? - Page 13
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Lazzi
Switzerland1920 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On January 07 2013 17:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: There's no lucky groups in Up/Downs but he definitely didn't get unlucky with his group. Look at group C, that would've been unlucky. I agree on the rank though, he's somewhere between Code A and Code S. A little too inconsistent maybe. Goes from all killing EGTL and looking amazing throughout to getting bopped by 2 stalkers from MC. I'll disagree with you 10 out of 10 times. | ||
thekaas
Denmark233 Posts
On January 07 2013 19:48 BlazeFury01 wrote: Look at Flashes losses closer in the up/downs. The only map he dropped was Cloud Kingdom (both to JD and MC). Also, look at his history on Cloud Kingdom, it's terrible. I personally don't think he hasn't found a way to play the map yet. He won all of the big maps. Put any top tier code S player against Flash on a big map and I am sure he'd win. Put any top tier code S player on a small map and I am sure they'd have a high chance of winning. Flash just needs to figure out a way to play smaller maps and he'll be good to go. But, I am sure after this season all of the small maps will be removed and leave only the bigger ones. To add to that, Cloud Kingdom isn't part of the Proleague mappool, so he probably didn't prepare for it. | ||
Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Taeja stomped Mvp, Taeja is considered best Terran of 2012. And Flash made him (Taeja) look a tier below him. He out-macroed, out-microed, out strategized Taeja, how many Terrans have done that recently ? None except Flash. I friggin hate Terran , but I can respect the amazing skills Flash shows. Think about it, in about 6 months he has transitioned from being Top Tier KOREAN Brood War player to beating Top Tier KOREAN SC2 players like Taeja. 7-2 yesterday is not bad its actually very good. He lost to small mistakes that can easily be fixed, and the way he nearly came back against MC , was plain scary. He is easily Code S, already. | ||
Grovbolle
Denmark3803 Posts
Number 11 :-P | ||
Poopi
France12466 Posts
On January 07 2013 20:27 thekaas wrote: To add to that, Cloud Kingdom isn't part of the Proleague mappool, so he probably didn't prepare for it. So why do I see Fanta vs Dear and JangBi vs SoulKey on cloud kingdom? xd. | ||
thekaas
Denmark233 Posts
On January 07 2013 20:28 Poopi wrote: So why do I see Fanta vs Dear and JangBi vs SoulKey on cloud kingdom? xd. It seems I have embarrassed myself. Disregard what I just said. | ||
SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
He still plays like a generic Terran most of the time, meaning he's probably still learning. Soon he'll easily be a shoo-in for Code S or even Ro4. If he doesn't make Code S next season I'd consider that a dissappointment | ||
algue
France1436 Posts
The way he stomps Zergs and Protoss amaze me. When he wins he wins so convincingly ! | ||
SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
On January 07 2013 20:27 Parcelleus wrote: Hmm lets see. Taeja stomped Mvp, Taeja is considered best Terran of 2012. And Flash made him (Taeja) look a tier below him. He out-macroed, out-microed, out strategized Taeja, how many Terrans have done that recently ? None except Flash. I friggin hate Terran , but I can respect the amazing skills Flash shows. Think about it, in about 6 months he has transitioned from being Top Tier KOREAN Brood War player to beating Top Tier KOREAN SC2 players like Taeja. 7-2 yesterday is not bad its actually very good. He lost to small mistakes that can easily be fixed, and the way he nearly came back against MC , was plain scary. He is easily Code S, already. Just a note though, just because Flash can beat Taeja TvT that doesn't mean Flash could beat the same caliber of people Taeja can in TvZ and TvP. Therefore it doesn't mean that Flash is straight up better than Taeja. It just means that Flash's current style of TvT play is amazing and can wipe the floor with Taeja i.e. he just has his number. Just like Life has Taeja's number. Just like 2012 Polt had MMA's number. Just like 2012 MMA did VERY well against MVP's style. | ||
DrakeFZX3
United States925 Posts
On January 07 2013 20:44 SwizzY wrote: Just a note though, just because Flash can beat Taeja TvT that doesn't mean Flash could beat the same caliber of people Taeja can in TvZ and TvP. Therefore it doesn't mean that Flash is straight up better than Taeja. It just means that Flash's current style of TvT play is amazing and can wipe the floor with Taeja i.e. he just has his number. Just like Life has Taeja's number. Just like 2012 Polt had MMA's number. Just like 2012 MMA did VERY well against MVP's style. I miss that Terran trifecta of checks and balances. Ahh the good ol' days of Polt > MMA > Mvp > Polt. | ||
terfand
Russian Federation119 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
CJhero and WJsos were nothing in BW, now they're aces for their teams. Everything changes for SC2, so I'm still impressed by Flash' progress. I think he'll do even better once the game slightly resets in HotS. | ||
Salient
United States876 Posts
On January 07 2013 16:07 krutopatkin wrote: If he was Code S level he would be in Code S I think. Zing! :p | ||
Elroi
Sweden5471 Posts
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
On January 07 2013 19:38 BlazeFury01 wrote: lol...Mvp's looked so good in the past simply because he didn't play Kespa level caliber players. Keep in mind, MVP had a 39% win ratio in Brood War. With that said, although this is a different game once the Kespa players play longer they will surpass MVP. Keep in mind, they've only been playing SC2 "full time" since September. Prior to September they practiced both BW and SC2. Practicing one game part time is not the same as practicing it full time and MVP's played since 2010. Sure the game has evolved since then but once HotS is released and the Kespa players experience more situations and find a counter to everything then it will end up like Brood War again. We aren't talking about Broodwar here. And even with wrist and neck pains (to the point where he couldn't even put pressure on his palm and wrists) he still managed to take a GSL title last year and win a lot of games. That's him injured. Imagine if he wasn't. | ||
Andre
Slovenia3515 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On January 07 2013 21:07 Elroi wrote: I don't know how how good Life, Parting etc (the eSF (?)) players are. But I think Flash is the best proleague player. If you look at the way he played yesterday he clearly is better than Hero and Taeja. He literally was playing much better than them. He wasn't "clearly better" than them. He played Antiga perfectly but it was Antiga. There's a reason why protoss hate this map and considering how it went, HerO put up a great fight. You can't take one game on a terran favored map and call him better than HerO. Didn't see the game vs Taeja. | ||
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Taeja roflstomped BaBy, who imo outclassed Flash in a Bo3, so yeh. Pretty pointless. | ||
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